Do you believe the bad verdict was not politically influenced?Nah, I wouldn't call him a political prisoner. His trial, other than a bad verdict, was according to Hoyle, notwithstanding some irregularities that could help his appeal.
Do you believe the bad verdict was not politically influenced?Nah, I wouldn't call him a political prisoner. His trial, other than a bad verdict, was according to Hoyle, notwithstanding some irregularities that could help his appeal.
Yeah. That doesn't make him a "political prisoner". That has a specific meaning that doesn't really fit what's going on here. He wasn't imprisoned because of his politcal beliefs. He wasn't imprisoned because of his political activism. He was imprisoned for being found guilty of murdering George Floyd. Floyd, a black man, died at the hands of a white man. That's the narrative, and of course there is a political component to that. But he wasn't jailed as a political dissident, which is what a political prisoner is.Do you believe the bad verdict was not politically influenced?
I would add the issue of conviction on three separate charges for the same act.Do you believe the bad verdict was not politically influenced?
You're splitting hairs. Several people involved need run through wood chippers and he is NOT one of them.Yeah. That doesn't make him a "political prisoner". That has a specific meaning that doesn't really fit what's going on here. He wasn't imprisoned because of his politcal beliefs. He wasn't imprisoned because of his political activism. He was imprisoned for being found guilty of murdering George Floyd. Floyd, a black man, died at the hands of a white man. That's the narrative, and of course there is a political component to that. But he wasn't jailed as a political dissident, which is what a political prisoner is.
I agree that it was a wrong verdict. And that the verdict was politically motivated. But that doesn’t make Chauvin a political prisoner unless you really stretch the definition. That has a specific definition. And saying so doesn’t mean I think the verdict is any less poopy. It just means words have meaning.You're splitting hairs. Several people involved need run through wood chippers and he is NOT one of them.
Apparently I use a wider definition of political prisoner which includes anyone imprisoned due, at least in part, to political considerations. Were the German Jews political prisoners?Yeah. That doesn't make him a "political prisoner". That has a specific meaning that doesn't really fit what's going on here. He wasn't imprisoned because of his politcal beliefs. He wasn't imprisoned because of his political activism. He was imprisoned for being found guilty of murdering George Floyd. Floyd, a black man, died at the hands of a white man. That's the narrative, and of course there is a political component to that. But he wasn't jailed as a political dissident, which is what a political prisoner is.
Like most totalitarian states Nazi Germany held its political opponents in prison. Those were political prisoners. Political prisoners are held in prison to punish and/or or keep their political views and actions hidden from the public.Apparently I use a wider definition of political prisoner which includes anyone imprisoned due, at least in part, to political considerations. Were the German Jews political prisoners?
Regardless of how we parse this, you are correct in that Chauvin is in prison for political reasons as opposed to correct application of justice.Like most totalitarian states Nazi Germany held its political opponents in prison. Those were political prisoners. Political prisoners are held in prison to punish and/or or keep their political views and actions hidden from the public.
But I don’t want to go back and forth on semantics. I mean. You’re not Bug. There’s no need. We both likely agree that the Chauvin verdict was politically motivated. I just disagree that it fits the definition of political prisoner. We can agree to disagree on that.
I think what he's saying, Dave, is you should ask a couple of friends from Minnesota and then go with thatBut I don’t want to go back and forth on semantics. I mean. You’re not Bug. There’s no need. We both likely agree that the Chauvin verdict was politically motivated. I just disagree that it fits the definition of political prisoner. We can agree to disagree on that.
That jury would've convicted him of the Black Dahlia murder and smoking on the Hindenburg if given the option.Chauvin is a political pawn, being punished to appease the thug, PC masses. The technique he used was an approved method of restraining a perp who had been combative. As is the case with so may other social issues, they did this to him, they`ll do this a more to any and all of us.
To rub your noses in it, they`ve made statues to commemorate the career criminal and druggie, floyd. This nation is just about nearly all undone.
Sounds good to me.Like most totalitarian states Nazi Germany held its political opponents in prison. Those were political prisoners. Political prisoners are held in prison to punish and/or or keep their political views and actions hidden from the public.
But I don’t want to go back and forth on semantics. I mean. You’re not Bug. There’s no need. We both likely agree that the Chauvin verdict was politically motivated. I just disagree that it fits the definition of political prisoner. We can agree to disagree on that.
Yeah. I’ll ask to borrow their dictionary.I think what he's saying, Dave, is you should ask a couple of friends from Minnesota and then go with that
Apparently damaging statues is now bad.
Yeah. That doesn't make him a "political prisoner". That has a specific meaning that doesn't really fit what's going on here. He wasn't imprisoned because of his politcal beliefs. He wasn't imprisoned because of his political activism. He was imprisoned for being found guilty of murdering George Floyd. Floyd, a black man, died at the hands of a white man. That's the narrative, and of course there is a political component to that. But he wasn't jailed as a political dissident, which is what a political prisoner is.
Okay. Let’s all start making up our own definitions.He was imprisoned to make a political point.
I consider that a political prisoner.
Regardless of how we parse this, you are correct in that Chauvin is in prison for political reasons as opposed to correct application of justice.