Food Shortages Being CREATED in Past Year

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    Maybe the rail strike will help things…

    I'm betting the rail strike will be stage managed to make Joe and other dems look like courageous skilled negotiators saving Americans in the end from further shortages. Payments from the government to union/comapny have already been arranged, big media already has the script, leadership on all sides getting a cut.
     

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    I've only been involved on the poultry side of things. My family raised 40k chickens at a time for Perdue back in the late 70s and early 80's, when that was a sizeable flock.

    Even then it was normal to destroy entire flocks if any birds got infected. Domesticated animals have little genetic diversity and tend to live in very tight quarters, so diseases spread *very* quickly. That's one reason your food has so many antibiotics in it (the other being poultry puts on meat faster with less food when on antibiotics, but I don't know why).

    Lizard people aside, why would for profit companies and farms destroy flocks? JRemember the angst over baby formula and how they were going to starve your children for compliance...how many babies starved in the US? Now you want me to consider this is some plot to starve us yet we're still a nation of giant fat asses and starvation deaths outside of neglected children and extremely mentally ill people are simply not a thing here and flock culling hasn't and won't change that.

    Revisit this in 12-24 months and it will be another Chicken Little moment that's forgotten as the new Great Catastrophe looms.
    I feel like your experience just gets in the way of a good panic.

    Next thing you know, we'll be told that the story being passed around about John Deere asking farmers to convert to electric tractors is fake.....oh wait...
     
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    I really don't see the government using food shortages for control, that policy worked out poorly for Louis 16. Maybe stage managing it to look good to voters, but not letting people go hungry. That's destabilizing.
    They do so much to provide cheap food to the masses, stabilization is such a long term goal people don’t even realize it’s being done.
    Maybe the next crises can involve farm subsidies.

    So if the fires/destruction/destabilization is real, who might be behind it? That’s the question worth answering imo.
     

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    In the country, hopefully.
    The lists I have seen are predominantly buildings being destroyed. Usually by fire. Or the occasional plane crash, but thats a red herring I think. (though the "coincidental" fire at the building a bit later is rather suspicious if you are the tinfoil hat type)
    Those lists exist, but in order for the list to approach 100, they need to include herds being culled, or however you put it. So these lists in this thread are talking about that. Which seems disingenuous.
     

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    I really don't see the government using food shortages for control, that policy worked out poorly for Louis 16. Maybe stage managing it to look good to voters, but not letting people go hungry. That's destabilizing.

    On one hand, posters bitch about "socialism" of gov't providing food and food subsidies to the poor. School lunches, WIC, some of us remember gov't commodity hand outs (honey, peanut butter, and the famous gov't cheese).

    Then switch to 'they gonna starve us' despite there being zero starving going on.

    Let people get hungry and see how quick things go sideways. There's a reason bread is subsidized in many poor nations that have to import wheat, and it's not largesse on the part of otherwise dictatorial regimes.
     

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    I think you are assuming these plant fires are self sabotage. I think we are thinking more along the lines TPTB destroying 3rd party facilities, not the owners DIY. You are right. Except for occasional insurance fraud, they have no motive.

    I'm talking about herd/flock culling. Plants set fire sometimes, that's not new either, any more than refinery fires are. Labor shortages are DEFINITELY not new at plants, late 90's in Kansas was very reliant on immigrant and temp workers because the conditions sucked in a way few jobs can suck. Dangerous, nasty, low paying, terrible hours, and you had to live in Kansas. So, you know, ick.

    There's zero reason for "TPTB" to set fires. That's thinking like a thug with no pull. Anyone sufficiently powerful enough to do mass arson, avoid the competing "TPTB", and keep the whole thing secret is not the sort of person/club/entity that has to resort to fire when a zoning board or labor strike is easier, cleaner, and longer term.
     
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    Last Sunday Walmart in Owensboro was totally out of Miller Lite cases. Unacceptable! I have a beer belly to support. :cheers:
    A man can't get a six-pack without lifting a half-dozen 12oz weights! Re: intentional effort to disable food production facilities, where does one find a year over year account and comparison? This was discussed months back and I posted a link to the details (at that time far fewer known accounts). And it looked very random. Legit accidents. Legit sabotage/arson. And a few hmmm's? Now the number appears substantial. Regardless, we're bombarded with insecure electricity, insecure food, insecure medicine. At what point is it no longer coincidental?
     

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    A man can't get a six-pack without lifting a half-dozen 12oz weights! Re: intentional effort to disable food production facilities, where does one find a year over year account and comparison? This was discussed months back and I posted a link to the details (at that time far fewer known accounts). And it looked very random. Legit accidents. Legit sabotage/arson. And a few hmmm's? Now the number appears substantial. Regardless, we're bombarded with insecure electricity, insecure food, insecure medicine. At what point is it no longer coincidental?
    There is no such thing as a coincidence.
     

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    Yup and you can’t repair’em (new stuff) you gotta call a technician. And they don’t care about your harvest, they’ll get there when they feel like it.
    Repairing an exhaust leak, found turbo with too much play.
    Not one in the country, from Cat or otherwise. Cat 3126 in a ‘98 tractor.
    We’re coming away thinking we should be thankful it’s only a 49 day lead time and $3400. Should have been $900 available anywhere all day long.

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    What if this (the fires) is the work of several different entities, all unknowingly working towards the same goal, but for a variety of reasons?

    PITA/Animal rights activists 'cause "Animals have Rights"!
    Unionists/Workers rights activists 'cause processing plants suck to work at.
    Some of the border jumpers might be tied to criminal or terrorist groups that seek the destabilization of America.
    Could be some gub'ment types, for whatever reason. Distraction, probably.
    Could all be Soros/NWO minions consolidating their grab on power.
     
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    How many things that he has said do you believe?

    ...and context is everything.
    I can't give you a number. Context is important. My question stands. Should we believe Potatus when he says:

    “With regard to food shortages, yes we did talk about food shortages. And it’s going to be real,” Biden said at a press conference in Belgium after attending meetings of NATO and G7 leaders.
     

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    Potatus said there will be food shortages. Should we believe him?

    Context matters. Food shortages *where*? There's always food shortages somewhere, and that somewhere is not and will not be the US. Countries that rely heavily on wheat imports, say much of the Middle East, will be affected. Let's take another snippet from the announcement:

    "While the entire globe will continue to be affected by Russia’s actions, the most immediate needs will present in the Horn of Africa, as it experiences a record-setting fourth straight season of drought, that may lead to famine. As many as 20 million people may face the threat of starvation by the end of the year. The prolonged drought is also having dire nutrition impacts, putting children at severe risk of malnutrition and in need of treatment."

    Yeah. I completely believe him that people in Africa are starving and that Ukraine's inability to export will exacerbate that. I'm sure we're all familiar with the fact that Africans starving is not a 'today only' problem.
     

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    I really don't see the government using food shortages for control, that policy worked out poorly for Louis 16. Maybe stage managing it to look good to voters, but not letting people go hungry. That's destabilizing.
    Our government, or someone else's government? We've tried our best to PO China and Russia, so is it not concievable that they might attempt to destabilize the US and Europe? Covert support to ALF or some other eco-freak group provides first level plausible deniability. Those groups are all Marxists anyway, so doing China's dirty work might just be seen as a noble cause among their ranks.
     
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