Fired officer quickly lands another job

[downzero]

Don't you have any skeletons in your closet? I know that I've done a few things that I am not proud of and some of them were the result of being under a great deal of stress for a long period of time. Luckily none of them were on camera. It would appear to me that this officer could use some counseling, but if his career is otherwise stellar, I can't see why he should not be given a second chance. It looks like the news media in Santa Fe (a liberal, artsy fartsy enclave) wanted his head.

I've done things I'm not entirely proud of, but none of them involve battery to another human being.

A police officer who behaves in this manner should absolutely be fired and never wear a uniform again.

Even a misdemeanor crime of domestic battery would prevent any of us from owning a gun ever again. This cop beats a handcuffed person to a pulp and gets to keep his gun and his job?

Please.....

Those of you defending this tyrant should be ashamed of yourselves.

 

[hornadylnl]

NHV, which alphabet agency do you work for?

 

[sj kahr k40]

This cop beats a handcuffed person to a pulp and gets to keep his gun and his job?

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I don't think I saw the same video as you, beat him to a pulp? Missed that part, and he lost his job, Sante Fe PD fired him, he got a new job based on his complete career not just this one incident.

 

[Benny]

I don't think I saw the same video as you, beat him to a pulp? Missed that part, and he lost his job, Sante Fe PD fired him, he got a new job based on his complete career not just this one incident.

LOL, what video did you watch? That guy was a PULP afterwards! He was basically unrecognizable after that pig got done with him.

 

[sj kahr k40]

LOL, what video did you watch? That guy was a PULP afterwards! He was basically unrecognizable after that pig got done with him.

I got smacked around more than that when I was a pledge at the fraternity.

 

[BE Mike]

I've done things I'm not entirely proud of, but none of them involve battery to another human being.

I believe that this statement is dishonest. You mean you have gone your whole life without being in a fight? That is unbelievable.

I can tell you that when placed in the right high stress situation with someone antagonizing you, you are capable of battery. Your past stellar performance, as reportedly was this officer's, only suggests that you will not show a pattern of abuse. It does not guarantee that under specific circumstances that you will not act out.

I don't excuse the officer's behavior in this incident, but he was fired and reportedly shows remorse. I don't think that he should receive a life sentence for an isolated incident.

 

[PatriotPride]

I believe that this statement is dishonest. You mean you have gone your whole life without being in a fight? That is unbelievable.

I can tell you that when placed in the right high stress situation with someone antagonizing you, you are capable of battery. Your past stellar performance, as reportedly was this officer's, only suggests that you will not show a pattern of abuse. It does not guarantee that under specific circumstances that you will not act out.

I don't excuse the officer's behavior in this incident, but he was fired and reportedly shows remorse. I don't think that he should receive a life sentence for an isolated incident.

Agreed and rep'd. There is such a thing as mercy and forgiveness. We ALL make mistakes.

 

[downzero]

I believe that this statement is dishonest. You mean you have gone your whole life without being in a fight? That is unbelievable.

I can tell you that when placed in the right high stress situation with someone antagonizing you, you are capable of battery. Your past stellar performance, as reportedly was this officer's, only suggests that you will not show a pattern of abuse. It does not guarantee that under specific circumstances that you will not act out.

I don't excuse the officer's behavior in this incident, but he was fired and reportedly shows remorse. I don't think that he should receive a life sentence for an isolated incident.

1. I have never been involved in a fight that would constitute a battery on another human being. In fact, the only fight I've ever been in where it wasn't someone else attacking me was when I was in the military, and trust me, the feeling was mutual (the result was also a draw).

2. Wrong. I'm not "capable" of a battery because I value my freedom too much to put my hands on another person. You're dead wrong about that.

3. It's not a life sentence to tell someone that they have to find another line of work. Someone who has shown the public that he is incapable of performing police work professionally and with respect for the rights of the citizens he is serving should never serve again.

The interesting thing about observing this from my perspective is that as much as we stuck up for each other in the military, if someone was a ****bag, we'd refuse to stick up for him and feed him to the wolves.

The problem, as I see it, is that even good cops will defend bad cops. This undermines the integrity of every police officer, because even the cops that know what happened is wrong won't stick up for what's right--they just continue to stick up for their fellow officers.

It makes me sick to see anyone defending this tyrant and it is appalling to me that he's not in jail. That's not even mentioning the immense cost to the taxpayers if and when he is sued.

 

[Benny]

The problem, as I see it, is that even good cops will defend bad cops. This undermines the integrity of every police officer, because even the cops that know what happened is wrong won't stick up for what's right--they just continue to stick up for their fellow officers.

14 clean years of service, he smacks a criminal for spitting on him and now all of a sudden he's a "bad" cop?

It makes me sick to see anyone defending this tyrant and it is appalling to me that he's not in jail. That's not even mentioning the immense cost to the taxpayers if and when he is sued.

Your posts are appalling.

 

[Fletch]

3. It's not a life sentence to tell someone that they have to find another line of work. Someone who has shown the public that he is incapable of performing police work professionally and with respect for the rights of the citizens he is serving should never serve again.

I absolutely agree with this.

It makes me sick to see anyone defending this tyrant and it is appalling to me that he's not in jail. That's not even mentioning the immense cost to the taxpayers if and when he is sued.

This, I think, is a bit extreme. I'm not really in favor of tossing the guy in the clink for this. I agree that it was completely over the top, and I agree that he should have lost his job and no longer been a police officer, but I disagree that he should have gone to jail.

I agree with those preaching forgiveness and mercy, but only to the points I've outlined. Part of what is on trial any time a police officer or soldier or for that matter anyone being paid with taxpayer dollars flips out, is the legitimacy of government itself. Allowing the government to continue to employ a person who has shown they cannot handle the responsibility and authority delegated to them is the same thing as continuing to vote for gun-grabbers and socialists just because "everyone deserves a second chance". Everyone does deserve a second chance, I firmly believe that, just not always in the exact same theater as their first chance. Oh, and I'll be looking forward to your support next time the subject of parolees or sex offenders comes up.

 

[downzero]

I'm not sure if he should be in jail or not. That's a decision that a jury and the legislature should have made when they wrote the statute.

No worries, you will definitely have my support when parolees and sex offenders come up. I'm not one of these people who thinks we should lock people up forever at a huge cost to the taxpayers for no perceived benefit.

14 clean years of service, he smacks a criminal for spitting on him and now all of a sudden he's a "bad" cop?

Someone who responds violently to a handcuffed person is definitely a "bad" cop, yes.

He obviously has demonstrated disrespect for his position and for the citizens he served. He has brought disgrace to his fellow officers. And, in the end, he will have cost the taxpayers a LOT of money for NOTHING.

You can think it's appalling if you want. I personally think that giving government a pass when a citizen's rights are violated is absolutely unacceptable.

 

[ihateiraq]

who let smoking357 back in?

 

[Fletch]

No worries, you will definitely have my support when parolees and sex offenders come up.

That was supposed to be addressed to those advocating forgiveness and mercy for the cop in this instance, but I'll take any help I can get.

 

[downzero]

who let smoking357 back in?

As usual, no substance, just insults.

 

[ihateiraq]

As usual, no substance, just insults.

what makes you think that was directed towards you? and what makes you think its an insult?

youre right on both counts, but how did you know?

 

[Fletch]

what makes you think that was directed towards you? and what makes you think its an insult?

youre right on both counts, but how did you know?

Maybe you're not as subtle as you think you are?

 

[ihateiraq]

Maybe you're not as subtle as you think you are?

probably it. ive never been accused of subtlety.

 

[Vasili]

He needs to find a new line of work.

This.

The kid should have shown much more respect to him.

But if you get that easily riled up you got no business being a cop.

That's all there is to it.

I know what I would have done myself and that is part of the reason why I know I should not be one and won't be one.

 

[downzero]

what makes you think that was directed towards you? and what makes you think its an insult?

youre right on both counts, but how did you know?

Because I've never even heard of this 357 fellow, and he comes up every time I post.

 

[JBusch8899]

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