Shadow8088
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- Jul 24, 2012
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BTW... This was caused by a terrier. A family pet. Never underestimate your opponent. Just sayin'.
that's a child, not a full grown adult that gets paid to carry a firearm....
BTW... This was caused by a terrier. A family pet. Never underestimate your opponent. Just sayin'.
Understood. I sure wouldn't have wanted to have shot the little nipper. Too much paperwork.that's a child, not a full grown adult that gets paid to carry a firearm....
At least he shot the dog and didnt just try to scare it off with a warning shot like a fellow INGOer did in Carmel.
Yep, it sure is and it will land your butt in court at least.Isn't that what Uncle Joe Biden wants us to do though?
I thought he expected you to either **** or puke on it.Yep, it sure is and it will land your butt in court at least.
Isn't that what Uncle Joe Biden wants us to do though?
I have no problem with a firearms carrier protecting themselves/others from an animal attack. It could come from a dog, mean coon, snake, or any other animal that is perceived as a danger.
What I DO have a problem with is the double standard that is being used in the "Investigation" of this discharge of a firearm. The Fishers "Talking Head", LEO, that I saw on the tube, basically said that the investigation was CLOSED!!
When these SAME situations have happened to "Joe Blow", LTCH, Private Citizen, the cases are not so "Open and Closed"!! At the minimum-Illegal Discharge of Firearm in city limits,-Unsafe firearms handling,-disturbing the peace,-or SOMETHING!!
As said, this would be NO news to Liberty Sanders..Or any other Citizen that has been "Jacked Up" over any other firearms discharge.
WTH:-THIS Guy is a Chief U.S. Marshall!!--You know--THE Bad A$$ of the Bad A$$'s around==THINK-Tommy Lee Jones..HA HA..
This CLOSED Investigation by the Fishers PD, IMO, STINKS of the "Thin Blue Line"-Good Ole Boys, cover-up...Bill.
Let me add something on the Federal part. It appears to most of us that bad judgement was used because of the lack of size on the dog. However if he was on his property he was well within his rights as would any propery owner. There are a 100 different ways it could go but basically cut and dried any property owner would be within their rights in this basic situation.
What happens is being a Federal LE OI will investigate it. If they find anything policy wise that he violated then they will make their recommendations on LOR, days off etc. If OI finds something possible criminal then it gets refered to OIG which is the investigations arm on possible criminal violations.
While several here have voiced they feel that LEO's, Federal in particular get away with everything any case at all like this and even someones allegation of excessive force is refered to OI and an investigation is opened.
I am not defending anyone here but just explaining a little bit on how an OI investigation works in the FED's since anyone that works for them as a LEO has been through a couple. It's just part of the checks and balance system agree or not!
I stated earlier the investigation has only begun. The Fishers PD investigation might be closed however as a FED LE there is an OI investigation as explained below. OI is an indipendent department that investigates all incidents within each Federal Department. DOJ has an OI, DHS has an OI etc etc. I can tell you of my own experience in th FED LE system and an OI case there is no "thin blue line or good ole boy system" If they are out of policy they are hammered. If it looks criminal it's referrd to OIG and they are criminally charged more times than not
I'm SURE that you do know your information on this subject--
BUT--
With the Federal investigations that have been/are currently in place, I have little confidence in a PROPER investigation of this matter.
Can you say Fast and Furious?? Where is the DOJ on this subject now??
Can you say Voter Intimation?? Where is the DOJ on the matter of the Black Panthers on swing/slapping clubs around during the 2008 elections?? Yea, I know this is off point, but I DO NOT get the "Warm Fuzzes" over expecting a through investigation by the Feds on this matter either...Bill.
Wow, just wow. Wonder how a civilian would have fared with the police department for doing the same thing.