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  • BugI02

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    Boston antifa is upset, because they stood in the road, someone got hit (bumped), and the police didn't arrest the guy.

    https://www.facebook.com/BostonAntifa/videos/1403431959695458/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED



    Can you believe the audacity. "you STOP until we give you the clear to proceed".
    WTF

    There is no room in our country for people who think like that; they are completely incompatible with an open and free society. To ignore them and their activities is to place ourselves in peril. While they are allowed to continue operating, they are spreading their perverse ideals among the weak-minded. The time is coming where they will have to be dealt with because there won't be any other choice left.


    For me, this differs only in degree from terrorist checkpoints in places like Iraq and Syria. I wish I could say I did not think this is where this is headed. I remember Florence and Normandie in LA
     

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    For me, this differs only in degree from terrorist checkpoints in places like Iraq and Syria. I wish I could say I did not think this is where this is headed. I remember Florence and Normandie in LA

    [video=youtube;xJXOIg2o6PA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXOIg2o6PA[/video]
     

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    While I understand the sentiment, that it's not cool to joke about dragging bodies....
    It looks to me, like the only reason the driver wasn't attacked, was because the police showed up, and the protestors thought he was going to get arrested.

    Listen to the crowd. They were threatening him the entire time. I'm not sure why he stopped, except he didn't want to be the "bad" guy.
    But he almost ended up a victim.

    If they jump in front of a moving 2 ton object, then threaten violence when physics does physics stuff, I'm not to concerned over their well being.
     

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    While I understand the sentiment, that it's not cool to joke about dragging bodies....
    It looks to me, like the only reason the driver wasn't attacked, was because the police showed up, and the protestors thought he was going to get arrested.

    Listen to the crowd. They were threatening him the entire time. I'm not sure why he stopped, except he didn't want to be the "bad" guy.
    But he almost ended up a victim.

    If they jump in front of a moving 2 ton object, then threaten violence when physics does physics stuff, I'm not to concerned over their well being.

    You may be either a body being dragged or dragging bodies. With family in tow I would not hesitate to see how good my 4wd is while trying Patton's greasing the treads of my tank analogy. I would be aiming for anywhere 'out' and would not hesitate to dust up the body work. I'd be checking my 'miles to empty' gauge and going. :twocents:
     

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    You may be either a body being dragged or dragging bodies. With family in tow I would not hesitate to see how good my 4wd is while trying Patton's greasing the treads of my tank analogy. I would be aiming for anywhere 'out' and would not hesitate to dust up the body work. I'd be checking my 'miles to empty' gauge and going. :twocents:

    Thor, with respect, I don't think that the question is "do or don't"; That, to me at least, is an obvious answer: "Do, if you must." The issue I took with the posted image was one of seemingly looking forward to doing it, planning it, laughing about it. To me, that was similar to the Muslims who reportedly danced and cheered when the WTC fell, given the story that accompanied that event, or to someone making public their plans to shoot someone invading their business, and then waiting inside one night, having "accidentally" left the door unlocked. To reiterate, this is my impression of what the picture connotes, and I've clearly said I'm not wearing the mod hat on this point, in this thread.

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    While the longstanding rule (pardon the pun) is that the pedestrian has the right of way, a pedestrian is one who goes or travels on foot, a walker, as distinguished from a "stander" or for that matter, a protester. Also, I learned very early that the road is for cars and the sidewalks are for pedestrians. In my mind, while the driver has to exercise due care and regard, meaning he can't drive like Frankenstein or Joey Viterbo, if they're in the street and not moving to get out of the street, i.e. they're trying to stop traffic, they are "fair game" to be pushed out of the way.

    Too, they are in theory, thinking beings. If something that weighs 10 times what you do, or more, is coming at you, you move out of its way.

    These idiots seem to think that we're the ships and they're the lighthouse, and it just ain't so.

    Finally, a vehicle traveling is stopped by mask-wearing people in a large enough group to do so. When the stagecoaches were in use, they referred to such people as "highwaymen", and they were criminals, intent on theft of belongings. The people of this group (and I know I'm generalizing with the broad brush) have already shown themselves to be disrespectful of others' property and willing to cause damage and injury. I decided a while back that if a group tries to stop me, and my family is with me, I will push past. I won't run over anyone unless there is damage done to my vehicle, but even if they want to play human speed bump by lying in the roadway to keep me from moving through, they won't succeed at that either. I have a gas pedal I'm not afraid to use, and I have a pistol I hope to never use other than on the range... but I'm capable of that as well.

    No, if you block the roadway, I have no obligation to wait for you to give me any "clear to proceed". You have an obligation to leave the roadway. I choose to not be a victim or a statistic, and all your accusations of me being a fascist don't make it true.



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    Sorry it was meant as a bit of humor, nothing more. If it offends you or you think it inappropriate please delete it.
     

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    Sorry it was meant as a bit of humor, nothing more. If it offends you or you think it inappropriate please delete it.

    No sir. I've already said why I didn't do that. Again, nothing I said was directed at you, but at the thought that conveyed; One does not "shoot the messenger" over the message, after all. I think the thought it conveyed was inappropriate, but better addressed than hidden away. Nothing on the net ever 100% "goes away", as you know, so I'd rather there was some rebuttal out there.

    We are peaceable people. We've simply decided not to be helpless victims, and have taken steps to ensure that. Antifa, and other groups, don't like the idea that someone might be willing and able to fight back, to defend themselves, and as we all know, there are some people in society who equate any fighting, even in self-defense, with offensive action, rather than a response to another's aggression.
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    Let them be aware that not everyone is or will be a helpless victim, and not always will Antifa win even a battle in the court of public opinion. There is a cost for assaulting others. We may be loathe to make them pay it, but I believe more of us are less willing to just roll over and show our bellies, too.

    Blessings,
    Bill
     

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    Wow - I'm old enough to remember Reginald Denny.

    If I find myself in the middle of a riot, I'm very unlikely to stop. Sure, I'll slow down to give rioters a chance to get out of the way. But that's about as generous as I'll be.
     

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    Thor, with respect, I don't think that the question is "do or don't"; That, to me at least, is an obvious answer: "Do, if you must." The issue I took with the posted image was one of seemingly looking forward to doing it, planning it, laughing about it. To me, that was similar to the Muslims who reportedly danced and cheered when the WTC fell, given the story that accompanied that event, or to someone making public their plans to shoot someone invading their business, and then waiting inside one night, having "accidentally" left the door unlocked. To reiterate, this is my impression of what the picture connotes, and I've clearly said I'm not wearing the mod hat on this point, in this thread.

    Blessings,
    Bill

    Yeah, I replied without reading the whole thread...paged back later and saw the image.
     

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    Wow - I'm old enough to remember Reginald Denny.

    If I find myself in the middle of a riot, I'm very unlikely to stop. Sure, I'll slow down to give rioters a chance to get out of the way. But that's about as generous as I'll be.

    Once it gets to that point I'd trust in the fighter pilot adage: Speed is life. And Churchill's "If you're going through hell, keep going." My generosity might be limited to the use of the horn.
     

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    Wow - I'm old enough to remember Reginald Denny.

    If I find myself in the middle of a riot, I'm very unlikely to stop. Sure, I'll slow down to give rioters a chance to get out of the way. But that's about as generous as I'll be.

    You and me both. Even sleepy Grand Rapids, where I was living at the time, had pockets where riots were taking place. There, however, as is common, the rioters destroyed the property of their neighbors leaving whoever it was they were mad at (?) untouched.

    But sure, a riot, however has a different look and feel from a political protest. While I would never want to hurt anyone, if I believed that my life of those in the car was in danger, chances are, it's not going to be pretty.
     

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    You and me both. Even sleepy Grand Rapids, where I was living at the time, had pockets where riots were taking place. There, however, as is common, the rioters destroyed the property of their neighbors leaving whoever it was they were mad at (?) untouched.

    But sure, a riot, however has a different look and feel from a political protest. While I would never want to hurt anyone, if I believed that my life of those in the car was in danger, chances are, it's not going to be pretty.


    We had it down here in Louisville....I was in my mid 20's working at a finance company..We had sent one of our employees to the west end to check on a repo and pick up a couple of payments...He called from a pay phone 1/2 hour after the verdict was read..I could hear people calling him slurs through the phone booth..I told him to get to his car and come back to the office...He had an AMT 380, pulled it and told them "I am going back to my vehicle so just back off..." And they let him through...It was like a lit fuse...Pre internet so we had no idea a verdict from there could have an affect here that quickly...If you get a chance Hough you should check out this NatGeo documentary....It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion...Heart breaking....

    [video=youtube;DcFuY_lPwh8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcFuY_lPwh8[/video]
     

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    The common thread in every video I have seen is that not one antifa thug can carry on an intelligent conversation. They can not articulate what they are against other than to chant meaningless phrases that in the real world do not mean what they think they mean.

    We are being governed by the 70's anti establishment crowd and in 30 years these idiots will be running the country.

    Even so come Lord Jesus.
     

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    The common thread in every video I have seen is that not one antifa thug can carry on an intelligent conversation. They can not articulate what they are against other than to chant meaningless phrases that in the real world do not mean what they think they mean.

    We are being governed by the 70's anti establishment crowd and in 30 years these idiots will be running the country.

    Even so come Lord Jesus.

    Unlike the 70s it seems there is more social rebuttal now, even from liberals. You listen to their rhetoric and they should an awful lot like a cult.
     

    AmmoManAaron

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    The legal immigrant with the MAGA hat at the end was pretty funny. "GET A JOB!"

    :yesway:

    Yep, I've noticed a lot more legal immigrants, particularly Hispanics, coming out against the leftist insanity - a very good thing.

    FWIW, I work with a Hindu Indian fellow who came over legally in the 80s, loves America, registered Republican, has admired Donald Trump for decades, voted for him, and would vote for him again today. Legal immigrants are just like other citizens - a mix of views and work ethics - but I'm glad to see the ones on our side start stepping up and voicing their support rather than staying silent like they had seemed to be doing previously. In the past, it seemed like you only heard the liberal immigrants.

    A Romanian woman I used to work with would, when asked, quietly say she didn't like what she was hearing or seeing during the Obama years and that it reminded her of the stuff the Ceausescu gov't said and did and that it scared her...on the other hand, I've seen YouTube videos of Eastern European immigrants speaking out boldly against the socialism/communism that is trying to take root in our country. From what I have seen, they intimately understand the threat and speak against it very effectively. Our native citizens have been spared the experience of living under socialism/communism and therefore lack certain perspectives on it.
     

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    The common thread in every video I have seen is that not one antifa thug can carry on an intelligent conversation. They can not articulate what they are against other than to chant meaningless phrases that in the real world do not mean what they think they mean.

    We are being governed by the 70's anti establishment crowd and in 30 years these idiots will be running the country.

    Even so come Lord Jesus.

    Unlike the 70s it seems there is more social rebuttal now, even from liberals. You listen to their rhetoric and they should an awful lot like a cult.

    Yup. Just like a cult. Or a mob.
     
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