COVID OMICRON Thread

[mbills2223]

I really was not expecting you to answer, but it raised a topic I would like to flesh out a bit. Right, we agree on bourbon! Wheated or rye? I’m a wheated guy myself…

The answer to your question is yes, but I do prefer wheated.

 

[avboiler11]

Your experience is in line with the statewide trends:

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A little over a week ago:

7 Day average cases and COVID ICU usage are now below where they were before the post-Christmas Omicron wave.

 

[hoosierdoc]

A little over a week ago:

We are sayers of sooth

 

[mmpsteve]

hoosierdoc said:
In my last five shifts i think i have seen maybe four COVID patients.

Your experience is in line with the statewide trends:

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And yet they want to keep suspending kids from school over masking, and stuff like that. I'd call it a continuation of the clown show, but it has serious consequences.

We're all going to face our maker one day, and I'm no angel, but I wouldn't want to be Fauci on that day.

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[bobzilla]

No lol. I've seen the people on the front lines busting their asses and giving all of themselves to try and save people, so no, I'm not uncomfortable in the slightest.

Maybe you need to go back and read sone of my posts and threads on the overall response to Covid. The general theme was if you get it go home until you’re ready to die. Not even “drink plenty of fluids and move every hour to keep fluid buildup down”. Nothing. Nada. Zip. That is what I’m talking about. Has nothing to do with people in icus trying to keep people alive that had been given zero treatment options or even general treatments to prevent them from getting to the point of needing the icu.

How many people that were in icus could have been prevented had there been as much emphasis on treatment while infected as there was in getting an ineffective and laughable excuse of a vaccine? That’s my issue. You won’t address that I know. I get it.

 

[maxipum]

No lol. I've seen the people on the front lines busting their asses and giving all of themselves to try and save people, so no, I'm not uncomfortable in the slightest.

Well to be fair if giving all of themselves to save lives did not include cheap ,safe and widely available drugs to treat covid then that is a lie.

 

[ancjr]

Maybe you need to go back and read sone of my posts and threads on the overall response to Covid. The general theme was if you get it go home until you’re ready to die. Not even “drink plenty of fluids and move every hour to keep fluid buildup down”. Nothing. Nada. Zip. That is what I’m talking about. Has nothing to do with people in icus trying to keep people alive that had been given zero treatment options or even general treatments to prevent them from getting to the point of needing the icu.

How many people that were in icus could have been prevented had there been as much emphasis on treatment while infected as there was in getting an ineffective and laughable excuse of a vaccine? That’s my issue. You won’t address that I know. I get it.

I truly thank God for doctors and nurses that care and are doing their best... but...

My mother had a preexisting condition that worsened during covid and she needed to spend time in the hospital. I got so frustrated with the hospital over how it was handled "Do you treat anything other than covid anymore? If not let me know so we can go home and take our chances!"

 

[mbills2223]

Maybe you need to go back and read sone of my posts and threads on the overall response to Covid. The general theme was if you get it go home until you’re ready to die. Not even “drink plenty of fluids and move every hour to keep fluid buildup down”. Nothing. Nada. Zip. That is what I’m talking about. Has nothing to do with people in icus trying to keep people alive that had been given zero treatment options or even general treatments to prevent them from getting to the point of needing the icu.

How many people that were in icus could have been prevented had there been as much emphasis on treatment while infected as there was in getting an ineffective and laughable excuse of a vaccine? That’s my issue. You won’t address that I know. I get it.

Whatever man. You actually believe that no one was trying at any level. You actually believe no one was or is looking for treatment options. I wish I had a view of the world as simplistic and black & white as you do. Plenty of people and organizations were and still are looking for treatment options. As I said to Mike earlier, there is zero sense in discussing this further, we are way too far apart.

 

[mbills2223]

Well to be fair if giving all of themselves to save lives did not include cheap ,safe and widely available drugs to treat covid then that is a lie.

Okay. If you believe that these drugs are the miracle that you seem to, then I completely understand why you'd feel that way.

 

[nonobaddog]

Okay. If you believe that these drugs are the miracle that you seem to, then I completely understand why you'd feel that way.

Who said "miracle"? Besides you that is. All they have to be is better than absolutely no treatment at all to save lives.

 

[bobzilla]

Whatever man. You actually believe that no one was trying at any level. You actually believe no one was or is looking for treatment options. I wish I had a view of the world as simplistic and black & white as you do. Plenty of people and organizations were and still are looking for treatment options. As I said to Mike earlier, there is zero sense in discussing this further, we are way too far apart.

That’s not what I said and you know it. Do you know how hard it was to find real options and answers after the wife brought it home for my second time? The CDC had nothing. The state health dept basically stated to stay home until you needed hospitalization. These are facts. This was the information provided by TPTB. It’s also why I started an informational thread about OTC treatments because that information was not being provided.

I’ve never said all/every/etc because things are more than black and white. Maybe it’s easier for you to categorize me that way because having the hard discussions is, well, hard.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

That’s not what I said and you know it. Do you know how hard it was to find real options and answers after the wife brought it home for my second time? The CDC had nothing. The state health dept basically stated to stay home until you needed hospitalization. These are facts. This was the information provided by TPTB. It’s also why I started an informational thread about OTC treatments because that information was not being provided.

I’ve never said all/every/etc because things are more than black and white. Maybe it’s easier for you to categorize me that way because having the hard discussions is, well, hard.

 

[oze]

The answer to your question is yes, but I do prefer wheated.

Yes, wheated. This doesn't make the under $50 qualification, but it's my favorite bourbon I've had yet.

Best Sipping Whiskey - Smoothest Bourbon - Smoothest Whiskey — Old Elk

Old Elk's unique slow reduction process produces the smoothest whiskey which makes for the best sipping whiskey. Top quality ingredients for top shelf bourbon.

www.oldelk.com

 

[wtburnette]

That’s not what I said and you know it. Do you know how hard it was to find real options and answers after the wife brought it home for my second time? The CDC had nothing. The state health dept basically stated to stay home until you needed hospitalization. These are facts. This was the information provided by TPTB. It’s also why I started an informational thread about OTC treatments because that information was not being provided.

I’ve never said all/every/etc because things are more than black and white. Maybe it’s easier for you to categorize me that way because having the hard discussions is, well, hard.

How the US is handling it is absolutely criminal. I've had my own firsthand experience and can tell you that 2 years into this crap, things are horrid.

 

[manifest destiny]

Government directives during this 2 year ad hoc emergency have not demonstrated better outcomes for citizens. Vent, vax, masks, whatever.

 

[jamil]

How the US is handling it is absolutely criminal. I've had my own firsthand experience and can tell you that 2 years into this crap, things are horrid.

Dr Campbell often expresses his astonishment at the relatively higher death rates in the US. I don’t think it’s fully explained by more co-morbidities in the US. It’s probably not fully explained by hospitals padding the death causes because they get reimbursed more and faster for patients who die from covid.

Probably another factor is the healthcare system itself. It’s also, “go home, come back to the ER if you turn blue.” After two years have they learned no tips at all for increasing your chances of a good outcome. I mean ****. If you really don’t have time to actually talk to patients at least send them home with a pamphlet.

There’s even an upside for that. They can add another $100 to the bill for the pamphlet! Just get creative with the name so no one figures out what the fee is for.

 

[firecadet613]

Covid has never been about your health...

 

[bobzilla]

Covid has never been about your health...

I disagree. I’ve had it twice now. It’s not fun. It’s no joke for the elderly and those with health issues. But it’s been handled completely wrong from the beginning. There’s been very little effort in treating the virus post infection and all the money, time and propaganda has been into dividing the country and a vaccine that doesn’t really vaccine.

 

[ghuns]

Yes, wheated. This doesn't make the under $50 qualification, but it's my favorite bourbon I've had yet.

Best Sipping Whiskey - Smoothest Bourbon - Smoothest Whiskey — Old Elk

Old Elk's unique slow reduction process produces the smoothest whiskey which makes for the best sipping whiskey. Top quality ingredients for top shelf bourbon.

www.oldelk.com

All the Old Elks are great.

Try the Jefferson's Ocean wheated recipe.

That's my favorite wheater.

 

[wtburnette]

I disagree. I’ve had it twice now. It’s not fun. It’s no joke for the elderly and those with health issues. But it’s been handled completely wrong from the beginning. There’s been very little effort in treating the virus post infection and all the money, time and propaganda has been into dividing the country and a vaccine that doesn’t really vaccine.

I think the money part was the major part for the US. Largest transfer of wealth in recent history from us (our government) to the drug companies.