COVID OMICRON Thread

[BugI02]

Early info says the vaccine is still effective against omicron. The unvaccinated are twice as likely to develop serious illness, and those with prior immunity appear to be susceptible to it. YMMV.

Skeptical of your sources. South African doctor who was one of the discoverers of the variant said it characterized by mild illness with a unique symptom profile. I'm assuming SA would have both a large number of unvaccinated as well as a large number of recovered/natural immunity yet no such indices as you claim were mentioned

In other countries, such as the EU, the number of cases is minuscule - too small to try to infer anything about trends vis a vis progression of illness (I think the UK had something like 39)

Concerning what I color highlighted in the quote, with a goal of vaccinating everybody above the age of 5 an untold number of times I would expect them to say nothing else - just like when the Israeli study indicated natural immunity was far better than vaccinated immunity there was a rush to put out information to the contrary

 

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[Dante1983]

I listened to a recorded interview on the radio with the south African Dr who discovered this new variant. She said she realized it was a different strain bc her patients had body aches for a few days then a dry cough for awhile..

 

[hoosierdoc]

I listened to a recorded interview on the radio with the south African Dr who discovered this new variant. She said she realized it was a different strain bc her patients had body aches for a few days then a dry cough for awhile..

That's nonsense. Half the people i talk to that had COVID experienced that as their symptoms.

I am seeing a lot of people we think have COVID but are rapid negative. Then are seeing rapid positive and PCR negative. Something has changed.

 

[Tryin']

That's nonsense. Half the people i talk to that had COVID experienced that as their symptoms.

I am seeing a lot of people we think have COVID but are rapid negative. Then are seeing rapid positive and PCR negative. Something has changed.

This happened to my wife today. Full smorgasbord of symptoms, including lower SPO2 (86-90) for the last couple of days. Negative test. Which puts me in a weird place with my employer, because most of their eligibility for work matrix centers around positive/negative tests. I reckon she could be far enough along (7 days) to no longer be be shedding the virus?

I have mild symptoms; persistent headache, fever (100.5), dry cough, and altered taste and smell. Don't have a test yet because they didn't want to test me until wife got hers back.

Both of us have had Covid already, me in early 2020, and her in early 2021. Both confirmed with antigen testing.

If I don't get any worse, it's a win for me. But if I get like her, my stance on acquired immunity is going to need some alteration. I can't really use her as an example because she already has a pretty compromised immune system from another chronic condition. (MS)

The urgent care was packed today, lots of testing being done. Three coworkers went out this week with it, and one is in the hospital with full oxygen support. It's not a close contact job, either.

Not sure why it seems to have flared so hard all of a sudden, but I will leave that for the smart kids to debate. The hospital I do part time work for put out some numbers indicating that between 25 and 30 percent of new admissions are vaccinated.

It's become such a way of life now, I don't think things are really going to change much. I sure would like some hard evidence on the origin of this thing though. Just for closure.

 

[wtburnette]

Prayers for those suffering through any illness and my hopes you recover quickly.

 

[jsharmon7]

That's nonsense. Half the people i talk to that had COVID experienced that as their symptoms.

I am seeing a lot of people we think have COVID but are rapid negative. Then are seeing rapid positive and PCR negative. Something has changed.

So much is based around testing. Testing negative to go to work, or a concert, or whatever. If that becomes as unreliable as you believe, what then? And I’ve heard from a couple people that tested negative, and then positive on a second test a few days later. I had the flu (maybe?) a few weeks ago and tested negative. Makes me wonder if I should have taken another test. Symptoms were very much in line with “regular” sicknesses I’ve had in the past. It wasn’t similar to when I actually had Covid a year ago.

 

[wtburnette]

Even my Doctor told me the rapid testing is quite prone to error. We've been hearing for over a year about the testing being flawed, not sure why it's surprising now?

 

[hoosierdoc]

Even my Doctor told me the rapid testing is quite prone to error. We've been hearing for over a year about the testing being flawed, not sure why it's surprising now?

Initial rapid tests were awful but they have become quite good.

I tested negative on day two of symptoms and then positive day four with a rapid.

PCR still best, but a negative rapid supposedly can be as good as 98% chance you don't have it.

CDC recommends negative test after day five of symptoms to be cleared at day 7 if symptomatic. But you can't get symptoms, test negative day 3 and consider yourself non-covid

 

[BigRed]

I was tested with two "rapid tests" and two pcr tests when I was ill. All came back negative.

Tested positive in spades for antibodies at my following physical.

I think only one of the tests was worth a damn....the one for antibodies.

 

[wtburnette]

Yep, I've tested negative 3 different times, even though I've been around multiple people who were positive for the WuFlu. I'm tempted to get the antibody test as I'm pretty sure I've had it and recovered.

 

[hoosierdoc]

COVID has reared its head again and it's bad. Still mostly unvax being admitted, but pretty much all hospitals are on diversion.

I have been told at 8am no one is getting a bed today. University hospital is probably on a 7-10 day wait for inpatient beds, which is tough because i have one of their post-op patients here who needs to be there.

If you are under care of a doc at a particular hospital, go directly there if you can. Don't assume you'll just be transferred after workup in an ER.

They to talk to your family doc and use urgent cares for non-severe symptoms. Flu is starting to show up also.

This is gonna be awful.

To be clear: it's s not just Bad because of COVID. But they are accounting for about a third of my admissions in the last few days.

 

[actaeon277]

that just tells me I need to retire ASAP.

Then, instead of barely seeing anyone, I'll upgrade to not seeing anyone.

 

[BigRed]

COVID has reared its head again and it's bad. Still mostly unvax being admitted, but pretty much all hospitals are on diversion.

I have been told at 8am no one is getting a bed today. University hospital is probably on a 7-10 day wait for inpatient beds, which is tough because i have one of their post-op patients here who needs to be there.

If you are under care of a doc at a particular hospital, go directly there if you can. Don't assume you'll just be transferred after workup in an ER.

They to talk to your family doc and use urgent cares for non-severe symptoms. Flu is starting to show up also.

This is gonna be awful.

Query

Is it because there is literally not a single bed available or because the staff is fully deployed on the beds that are being used?

 

[hoosierdoc]

Query

Is it because there is literally not a single bed available or because the staff is fully deployed on the beds that are being used?

It depends. I was told the other day we only had six inpatient beds blocked due to staffing issues. I don't know if that meant "of the ones we wanted to open" or of all the hospital was capable of using.

IU just called out national guard for lack of staffing. My current hospital I'm at has insufficient staff tonight so that is part of our problem today, but it has been generally busy for weeks.

The traveling nurses... Many are good, many are not. It seems some have simply reactivated their licenses to make some money. Or they are now working a unit they have little experience. If you're a traveler, you don't go through formal orientation. So there's a lot of " Idon't know how to do that" when things are needing done. But they are making triple rate and hospital paying 5X rate to get them here from staffing company

 

[tim87tr]

COVID has reared its head again and it's bad. Still mostly unvax being admitted, but pretty much all hospitals are on diversion.

I have been told at 8am no one is getting a bed today. University hospital is probably on a 7-10 day wait for inpatient beds, which is tough because i have one of their post-op patients here who needs to be there.

If you are under care of a doc at a particular hospital, go directly there if you can. Don't assume you'll just be transferred after workup in an ER.

They to talk to your family doc and use urgent cares for non-severe symptoms. Flu is starting to show up also.

This is gonna be awful.

To be clear: it's s not just Bad because of COVID. But they are accounting for about a third of my admissions in the last few days.

More and more people believe the new cases are due to the vax creating lowered immunity and ADE. This is an excellent discussion of just that.

EXCLUSIVE: Dr. Robert Malone, Inventor Of The mRNA Vaccine On Scientific and Government Lies

Dana Loesch 33.4K subscribers Dana (@DLoesch / @DanaLoeschRadio) is joined by Dr. Robert Malone (@RWMaloneMD), the inventor of the mRNA vaccine platform, on the difference between traditional vaccines

rumble.com

IMO the alleged new variants are a sinister way to go after children in this ridiculous vax campaign and it's pathetic. There are going to be consequences to any individual or entities pushing the fear porn and harming or killing children. This will play out in a shocking way when more people figure out what's been done to them with these Experimental vaxes. It's happening now and will greatly escalate in the next few months. Whatever ugly harsh event happens to change the current tyrannical trajectory will be accepted in order for the Country and World to return to some normalcy. You're seeing this play out in other Countries right now.

 

[JCSR]

Rand Paul: Pro-Vaxxers ‘Won’t Be Happy Until They Get Your Newborn’​

Rand Paul: Pro-Vaxxers 'Won't Be Happy Until They Get Your Newborn'

Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) warned militant vaccine advocates would get more and more aggressive with their tactics during an appearance on FNC's "Hannity" on Friday. | Clips

www.breitbart.com

 

[jsharmon7]

COVID has reared its head again and it's bad. Still mostly unvax being admitted, but pretty much all hospitals are on diversion.

I have been told at 8am no one is getting a bed today. University hospital is probably on a 7-10 day wait for inpatient beds, which is tough because i have one of their post-op patients here who needs to be there.

If you are under care of a doc at a particular hospital, go directly there if you can. Don't assume you'll just be transferred after workup in an ER.

They to talk to your family doc and use urgent cares for non-severe symptoms. Flu is starting to show up also.

This is gonna be awful.

To be clear: it's s not just Bad because of COVID. But they are accounting for about a third of my admissions in the last few days.

Thank you, as always, for providing a real “boots on the ground” view. We can argue forever in the Covid threads, but this kind of direct observation is what matters. Even if someone isn’t worried about Covid, hearing these problems should be alarming.