COVID OMICRON Thread

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  • Ziggidy

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    We had mandatory training for the biohazard suits for ebola. We had Decon stations setup in the ambulance bays. One entire hallway of rooms blocked off with plastic and multiple rooms marked purely for donning and doffing and several as treatment rooms.

    Fortunately never really needed them. We did have a few patients who had traveled to the area and had fever though.

    But we all know the ER doc who saw the ebola patient and discharged them.
    I remember that well. We closed the pediatric wing (right next to ER) and made it "the ebola hall". We were ready, so we thought. Glad we never had to experience it.
     

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    Maybe it's becoming diluted with each new strain? Maybe it will end up like the seasonal flu? Probably not until the squeeze every drop of politics out if it.
    The natural course of viral mutations is to become more infectious and less lethal.

    If you think about it that makes sense. A virus that kills all of it's hosts doesn't get to spread. A virus that is more transmissible does. So they mutate into more scary (transmissible) but less dangerous (not what the scaremongers want).

    It would be very rare for a virus to become more transmissible and more lethal unless done in a lab. Opps!
     

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    Based on the initial information on this new variant of COVID, I figured it would be a good idea to start a seperate thread.

    Much is still unknown about how OMICRON will react where a majority of the population is vaxxed. Normally, when a virus mutates, it becomes more contagious but less lethal. The next two weeks are going to be very interesting.


    Not necessarily.

    Rabies is still 100% lethal, for example.
    Just never made the jump to contact transmission or airborne transmission, still needs to be blood/tissue born.

    Innoculation/vaccination BEFORE the virus hits the nervous system is the only way to survive rabies.
    They don't wait to see if you develop rabies symptoms, by the time there is detectable virus or symptoms, you are already dead...

    Ebola mutated, from 70% to over 90% lethal, just never made the jump from touch transmitted to airborne.

    Mutations can go either way,
    The more lethal, the faster carriers die so it can burn itself out that way,
    But there is no guarantee.

    See retro-viruses like HIV, spreaders live for years before onset of symptoms.
    That virus isn't any less lethal, 30 years of very targeted research has lead to anti-virals drugs that specifically target the HIV virus vairants.
     

    jsharmon7

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    Early info says the vaccine is still effective against omicron. The unvaccinated are twice as likely to develop serious illness, and those with prior immunity appear to be susceptible to it. YMMV.
     

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    Early info says the vaccine is still effective against omicron. The unvaccinated are twice as likely to develop serious illness, and those with prior immunity appear to be susceptible to it. YMMV.
    The data on who is more likely to get severe illness is skewed. It use data from before vaccines were available. if you look at data since let's say June of this year, you get a very different picture.
     

    jsharmon7

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    The data on who is more likely to get severe illness is skewed. It use data from before vaccines were available. if you look at data since let's say June of this year, you get a very different picture.
    The info I saw was translated from an article from Israel. They didn’t translate all the details, so I have no idea how they got the stats. I saw another article that said the majority of cases have been mild, so your info is probably correct.
     

    JCSR

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    Early info says the vaccine is still effective against omicron. The unvaccinated are twice as likely to develop serious illness, and those with prior immunity appear to be susceptible to it. YMMV.
    Early info on a handful of people that actually have Omocron? They must be pulling data out of their asses !

    As of yesterday:
    Australia: 7 cases
    Austria: 1 case
    Belgium: 1 case
    Botswana: 19 cases
    Brazil: 2 cases
    Canada: 6 cases
    Czech Republic: 1 case
    Denmark: 4 cases
    France: 1 case (on Reunion Island)
    Germany: 9 cases
    Hong Kong: 4 cases
    Israel: 4 cases
    Italy: 9 cases
    Japan: 2 cases
    Netherlands: 16 cases
    Nigeria: 3 cases
    Norway: 2 cases
    Portugal: 13 cases
    Saudi Arabia: 1 case
    South Africa: 77 cases
    Spain: 2 cases
    Sweden: 3 cases
    United Kingdom: 22 cases


     
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