Coronovirus IV

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I pretty much hate republicans....almost as much as I hate the SJW snowflake Democrats.

I think I'm just getting old and despise almost everyone at this point.

I get that.

 

[nonobaddog]

Is it violating constitutional rights? No.

Is it necessary? That decides whether it's a reasonable policy. If it's an unreasonable policy, I'll shop elsewhere and direct the family to follow.
The theater of requiring a mask that can not stop virus sized particles is the equivalent of requiring people change their forum avatar to have a transparent flag over it after a disaster.

That is what I am thinking - I would either wear glasses if I wanted something they had or go somewhere else. Kind of like dining at a restaurant where jackets are required or going most anyplace where shirts and shoes (and sometimes even pants) are required. It doesn't affect my rights to make my choice.

 

[churchmouse]

Senate dumocraps are introducing a resolution that says calling the chinese virus a chinese virus is racist.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...oronavirus-terms-such-as-chinese-virus-racist

Another great way to spend their time.

 

[tbhausen]

I looked ahead a couple pages and no one had posted it, so I went looking on my own. Oh well. Didn’t read ahead far enough....

My wife’s currently a preschool teacher at our church’s preschool... I figure we might as well shut it down. The way the rest of the staff has reacted to this ordeal, they will want to follow the recommendations entirely, and it’s not feasible, even half of it.

as for our kids in public school... no way to expect even half of that will get implemented with any consistency. Might as well stop all bussing. You can’t isolate groups of kids by class if you can’t isolate them on the busses (and 1 per row, skipping every other row is not reasonable).

I’ve been trying to gently prepare my wife/kids for the possibility that the schools will decide the easiest course of action with the least risk is to continue the remote learning through the 20/21 school year. It’s not gone well for us, and my son who was seeing one of his better years through February ended really struggling. And given that remote learning was the first bullet point on that cdc webpage as the lowest risk solution, why would schools do anything else?

-rvb

Our Mom has worked for the Monroe-Gregg school district for over 40 years. She’s retiring in a few weeks but expects this to happen for the exact reasons you cited. I’m happy for her; it’s the right time to retire.

 

[Libertarian01]

What if a brand new store opened up and for some strange reason they said everybody has to wear safety glasses or some kind of safety glasses or eye protection, to shop there?
(I mean just any old glasses - I don't want to get into two pages of defining "safety".)

Would some people think that is violating their constitutional rights?

I would think maybe it is violating rights under equal protection. Under When a "person" (ie. could be a corporation, a legal person but not a real person) applies for a license to do business they de facto agree to certain rules.

For example, today you could not deny someone service/entrance due to the colour of their skin. When a business opens "to the public" it must be, generally speaking, to the whole public. If the store were to require glasses this may discriminate against people who are unable to wear glasses (for whatever reason.)

Regards,

Doug

 

[Tombs]

 

[tbhausen]

Anybody notice what was in the latest iPhone update that came out today?

 

[Tombs]

Anybody notice what was in the latest iPhone update that came out today?

I don't use apple products, but the run down is effectively that it updates it to allow the government to track you for covid related reasons.

 

[tbhausen]

Yes, it’s the SDK that allows contact tracing apps to do their thing. Same thing happened with Android at the same time. I believe we have to install an app to activate it, but not certain. I need to look into this.

 

[tbhausen]

https://9to5mac.com/2020/05/19/how-to-turn-on-off-covid-19-contact-tracing-iphone-ios/

Here is what we Apple users need to know. I’m sure there are similar articles for Android. For Apple, it’s turned off by default and does require an authorized app to activate. There’s a list of how individual states are handling it here, as well. Essential reading for Apple users!

 

[jamil]

Manipulating the sample set to manipulate a person’s beliefs about an issue.

I thought only Democrats did that.

...but a meme so it’s OK....I’ve been told numerous times.

Yeah, it’s not like a meme should tell an important truth or something. Yep. It’s memeier if it’s clickbait that says what you want to believe.

 

[jamil]

I pretty much hate republicans....almost as much as I hate the SJW snowflake Democrats.

I think I'm just getting old and despise almost everyone at this point.

Yeah. Everything sucks. So might as well do something fun.

 

[tbhausen]

Reading into the nuts and bolts of how this works, it doesn’t sound too nefarious to me. I’m considering opting into it just to see how the hell it works.

https://covid19-static.cdn-apple.co...-tracing/pdf/ExposureNotification-FAQv1.1.pdf

 

[Tombs]

Reading into the nuts and bolts of how this works, it doesn’t sound too nefarious to me. I’m considering opting into it just to see how the hell it works.

https://covid19-static.cdn-apple.co...-tracing/pdf/ExposureNotification-FAQv1.1.pdf

You know what they say about playing stupid games.

I would not test that out unless you're a lawyer.

 

[tbhausen]

Wow, the rollout of this is landing with a loud “thud” in most states:

https://9to5mac.com/2020/05/21/covid-19-exposure-notification-api-states/

 

[tbhausen]

You know what they say about playing stupid games.

I would not test that out unless you're a lawyer.

All it can do is tell you that you’ve possibly been in contact with an infected person. It can’t do anything else until you allow it to. I would expect such a notification quickly considering my lifestyle. Hardly a “stupid game” in my opinion. No matter at this point; the places I frequent either do not plan to participate or haven’t responded yet. So the rubber meets the road months down the line when it’s built in to both operating systems and available for opt in.

 

[tbhausen]

You know what they say about playing stupid games.

I would not test that out unless you're a lawyer.

If you meant I would opt in and falsely report being COVID-19 positive, I hadn’t even considered that. But that is a potential concern, I suppose.

 

[jamil]

Why it can be safer being in public without a mask:


Wife told me that when she went to the store she didn’t wear a mask, and when people saw she wasn’t wearing a mask, they shot a dirty look and kept their distance. Cool. Distance is good.

 

[nonobaddog]

All it can do is tell you that you’ve possibly been in contact with an infected person. It can’t do anything else until you allow it to. I would expect such a notification quickly considering my lifestyle. Hardly a “stupid game” in my opinion. No matter at this point; the places I frequent either do not plan to participate or haven’t responded yet. So the rubber meets the road months down the line when it’s built in to both operating systems and available for opt in.

Oh Ye of much misplaced faith.

 

[Tombs]

If you meant I would opt in and falsely report being COVID-19 positive, I hadn’t even considered that. But that is a potential concern, I suppose.

I think you misunderstand.

There's likely a gigantic contract you're agreeing to, and unless you're a lawyer, you're not going to know just how severely it's going to bend you over.