Coronavirus II

[maxwelhse]

I have been using a neoprene reusable mask with N99 filters. When i have used it, it gets chucked into my cpap cleaning bag and "soaked" in ozone for a couple hours.

Quick research reveals that's a cromulent solution. Carry on!

However... I'll say this again: Filling your entire house with ozone isn't a good idea. It's not good to breathe, so nobody go out and buy a bunch of ozone generators and think you're going to disinfect your house. You will... and you'll die doing it.

 

[BugI02]

SJW take:

Reality:

Didn't their argument used to be that gender was a construct, software not hardware? So how can it suddenly be a 'gendered crisis'

 

[Snapdragon]

I took some cash out of the bank today. Without coming in direct contact with it, I put it in a large ziploc bag and closed it in with my Respify (ozone-making CPAP cleaner). That thing is going to come in handy. Might be a good investment even if you don't have a CPAP.

 

[mmpsteve]

Because I pulled that link from the Google cached version and they only nuked it from the home page, and not from orbit... like someone did it in a big hurry or something.

Never mind that stuff like the Internet Archive still exists...

Honestly, I'm with Hough Made on this one... They're gonna pork that bill up and sit on their hands until they get at least plenty of what they want, so, it doesn't even matter in the end. But, curious that link is spontaneously broken. I have no clue who any of those people are anyhow, other than the obvious honorary chairs and such.

I agree, the money for the arts is a small price to pay, if you believe this needs done now. I just hate that the rich benefit from this. There were several Kennedy Smiths on that list, and one of the Mars chocolate company family, etc.
OK, so all that's assumed and boring. One thing that did stick out was the 1st item - Honorary Chairs. Why is Hillary listed as the Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton, and the rest are just Mrs. so-and-so?

Mrs. Melania Trump
Mrs. Michelle Obama
Mrs. Laura Bush
Hon. Hillary Rodham Clinton
Mrs. Jimmy Carter

.

 

[BugI02]

We had a few reports of doctors and nurses in France who had their cars broken into.

Most of them have a card a a sticker with a caduceus on them with the mention "physician" or "nurse" on them.
Some keep special parking badges from their hospital on the windshield too.

Apparently people are looking for masks, gloves and handsanitizer in those vehicles, often also stealing the card to avoid controls at police checkpoints, since healthcare professionals don't have travel restrictions.

Not sure if it's a thing in the US too?

It's a good reminded to not keep any sticker or clues that could give away what's in your car (NRA stickers etc).

Medical kits, guns, ammo etc ... You can guess what's in a vehicle based on many things.


We had people trying to break into our local fire station as well, also to steal masks from first responders.

Sounds like looting. Shoot to kill

 

[Snapdragon]

I agree, the money for the arts is a small price to pay, if you believe this needs done now. I just hate that the rich benefit from this. There were several Kennedy Smiths on that list, and one of the Mars chocolate company family, etc.
OK, so all that's assumed and boring. One thing that did stick out was the 1st item - Honorary Chairs. Why is Hillary listed as the Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton, and the rest are just Mrs. so-and-so?

Mrs. Melania Trump
Mrs. Michelle Obama
Mrs. Laura Bush
Hon. Hillary Rodham Clinton
Mrs. Jimmy Carter

.

Because she held public office, I would guess.

 

[BugI02]

I wouldn't call it junk science, yet. As you (and they) note, it is a draft model that isn't peer reviewed. It is a step towards something more robust. That's also basically why they need to validate it with something, so they use the worst case Europe has to offer - Italy.

The point about the 1% comorbidities - at least they way I took it - was to have that as a placeholder. Change that number, and the results change.

Another inference is that there's alot they still don't know about how to model this. We just don't have reliable numbers. Well, the most reliable numbers we have from Europe are pretty bleak.

I would think that, since some rheumatoid arthritis and MS patients will have been on hydroxychloroquine regularly for quite some time, someone might check medical histories of serious cases and see if such people are significantly under-represented

 

[maxwelhse]

I agree, the money for the arts is a small price to pay, if you believe this needs done now. I just hate that the rich benefit from this. There were several Kennedy Smiths on that list, and one of the Mars chocolate company family, etc.
OK, so all that's assumed and boring. One thing that did stick out was the 1st item - Honorary Chairs. Why is Hillary listed as the Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton, and the rest are just Mrs. so-and-so?

Mrs. Melania Trump
Mrs. Michelle Obama
Mrs. Laura Bush
Hon. Hillary Rodham Clinton
Mrs. Jimmy Carter

.

The rich already benefited from this, bigly. There's no question in my mind that the big money folks have money managers that were shorting the crap out of the market the entire way down and driving it even hard into the basement. When you have deep enough pockets, you can actually just make the market do whatever you want. Carl Icahn has made an entire career out of doing exactly that. That's why you don't see a bunch of wrist slitting from that crowd every time this happens like we saw in the 1930s.

Only answer I've got for the "Hon" is she's either an honorary judge somewhere or that NYC is as politically biased as we were all pretty sure they were. I thought maybe it was just a lawyer thing at first, but Obama is a lawyer too. Soo...?

Edit: Snap is probably right. None of the others were ever elected to office. Clinton was a senator... I just always forget that.

 

[nonobaddog]

You've lost your sense of smell AND reading comprehension?

Go see a Doc!

The interesting and slightly ironic bit of trivia that they used to make instruments in Elkhart does not a point make.
So I'm guessing your aggressive response is to cover up that you realize that.

 

[HoughMade]

Because she held public office, I would guess.

Yes. A title that goes with both being a Senator and a Secretary of State.

 

[chipbennett]

Always been 'gif' and always will be.

I knew I liked you!

(The "G" in .gif stands for "graphic", which has a hard, not soft*, "g".




* Apparently, it hasn't yet been infected with COVID-19?

 

[chipbennett]

Autoclave temps are about double that, and at pressure, which could cause some materials to break down.

Plus, something like my N95 filters for my respirator could handle the oven, but the steam of an autoclave would destroy them. So, good into to know!

True. Autoclave exposure cycles are at about 121C (or about 260F). They are used for lots of porous materials, including sterile filters for aseptic filling. I'm not familiar with the filter medium used in N95 masks, though. Maybe they could be bagged and 'claved?

 

[mmpsteve]

Yes. A title that goes with both being a Senator and a Secretary of State.

OK, but how ironic - her as Honorable and Mrs. Bush just a mere Mrs.

.

 

[maxwelhse]

I knew I liked you!

(The "G" in .gif stands for "graphic", which has a hard, not soft*, "g".




* Apparently, it hasn't yet been infected with COVID-19?

The inventor of it says you're doing it wrong...

 

[chipbennett]

Polypropylene melts between 250 and 350 degrees. Probably degrades significantly well before actually melting in it's spun bond form, as in a N95 mask.

It would be possible to lower the temperature of the exposure cycle, but not by much, if the intent is to get a typical 6-log reduction. (And the cycle time would be considerably longer.)

 

[maxwelhse]

True. Autoclave exposure cycles are at about 121C (or about 260F). They are used for lots of porous materials, including sterile filters for aseptic filling. I'm not familiar with the filter medium used in N95 masks, though. Maybe they could be bagged and 'claved?

I honestly don't know if I've ever touched an N95 mask, but the cartridges for my respirator have paper pleats visible inside them that I know wouldn't like the steam. I've destroyed some before just by sweating to death wearing one up in my attic (blown insulation... I only made that mistake once before buying the respirator).

 

[BugI02]

BACH to China.

Har!

I am buying Japanese acoustic guitars at the moment. I'd buy Japanese grand pianos if I could, but my house and budget aren't set up for that.

But, I'm a Yamaha fan....except for motorcycles.

No FJ1200 love? SMH

 

[Alpo]

No FJ1200 love? SMH

When I could bend that far forward and ride that way...yeah, although I prefer the Ducati.

But, my first ride was a BSA and then a Triumph.

We had style back then and open roads. And rolled up T-shirts, cigarettes without filters and greased down ducktails.

Ask Churchmouse. He knows.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Oh, and before it was the center of RV industry, Elkhart was the center of what manufacturing?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Authentic Amish Hookers?

 

[maxwelhse]

Authentic Amish Hookers?

That's Middlebury...