Coronavirus II

[nra4ever]

India sues China for biological warfare because of the CV19


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/india-drags-china-international-court-covid-19-war

 

[Trigger Time]

Some might like Weinstein's angle here... essentially calling for insurrection for the gov response to the virus.

[video=youtube;wf0_nMaQ6tA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf0_nMaQ6tA[/video]

They'd rather see the plane crash and burn even if they would die too than to see the other side win.
I look at all of us as Americans UNTIL someone is actively trying to undermine my country. Then they are an enemy.
Liberals look at anyone who disagrees with them and supports trump as their enemy from the get go. They could give a crap less about America. This tells me where they rank.

 

[jedi]

India sues China for biological warfare because of the CV19


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/india-drags-china-international-court-covid-19-war

Meh..
It means nothing to China.
They are like your stubborn child that will ONLY learn with a good old fashion whooping.

Old time will tell if the world gets together and actually gives it to China for what they have done.

 

[nonobaddog]

"[FONT=&quot]Until 1993 it was illegal to make even hospital bedpans outside the U.S. for the American market."

Now we are so dependent on china, and other countries, for life saving equipment in many if not most medical areas. As a nation we are very vulnerable.
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[Trigger Time]

India sues China for biological warfare because of the CV19


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/india-drags-china-international-court-covid-19-war

I dont have any doubt there is Chinese government fingers all in this.
None. We may see wwIII come from this. It's very possible.

 

[Trigger Time]

"[FONT=&amp]Until 1993 it was illegal to make even hospital bedpans outside the U.S. for the American market."

Now we are so dependent on china, and other countries, for life saving equipment in many if not most medical areas. As a nation we are very vulnerable.
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We need to bring those laws back.
We need to start fining and yes maybe even prosecuting companies that go outside of the U.S. to produce some essential things after this. I think for sure there needs to be a threshold of how much we allow any company to import from China of their goods. After they reach say 20% imported we start leveling massive fines on them. If they hit 40% we start prosecuting.
This is clearly a matter of national security, with Any foreign nation having that much power over the U.S.
But especially China who IS our enemy, not our friend. We call them our friend because we have like a cold war with them like we did the Soviets. But the Chinese are pieces of ****. I've been saying this way before the Corona

 

[Thor]

I've been saying this way before the Corona

You and me both. Every fish we buy from them supports their expansion of claims in the South China Sea, every computer part supports their undermining our technology and security, every ChiCom student we let in puts a pass to their spying and theft of intilectual property.

We need to stop doing ALL business with them, then seize their assets in this country to pay for the damage they have done.

The only One China policy I believe in is One China under Taiwan.

 

[Ingomike]

The only mask that will "kinda" seal for me is a full face gas mask. And even then I have to shove my beard thing in first and then my face so I'm actually filtering through my beard first before the respirator.
If I trimmed my neck it would be air tight but not that desperate....... yet.

You may know this, but the trend in men being clean shaven began in WWI when the gas war began. The troops were given razor to shave so their gas masks fit. When they came home the girls loved the clean shaven look and feel and that's the rest of the story...

 

[Trigger Time]

You and me both. Every fish we buy from them supports their expansion of claims in the South China Sea, every computer part supports their undermining our technology and security, every ChiCom student we let in puts a pass to their spying and theft of intilectual property.

We need to stop doing ALL business with them, then seize their assets in this country to pay for the damage they have done.

The only One China policy I believe in is One China under Taiwan.

Yep. Also any stock they've bought during all of this needs seized and sold and the money given back to the American people somehow. Like paying down the national debt we've just added to.

 

[Trigger Time]

You may know this, but the trend in men being clean shaven began in WWI when the gas war began. The troops were given razor to shave so their gas masks fit. When they came home the girls loved the clean shaven look and feel and that's the rest of the story...

I sure hope this kills the beard fad

 

[Dead Duck]

You may know this, but the trend in men being clean shaven began in WWI when the gas war began. The troops were given razor to shave so their gas masks fit. When they came home the girls loved the clean shaven look and feel and that's the rest of the story...

I can definitely understand why when fighting with mine. And I didn't know that.
You must be real old to remember it. Did you have to shave yours too?

 

[SwikLS]

by the way, has anyone else been to Walmart lately. I've been to Walmart, Aldi's, Krogers, and Rural King in the last few days and at every one there was rubber gloves and masks laying around in the parking lot. Walmart was the worst though.

 

[Trigger Time]

by the way, has anyone else been to Walmart lately. I've been to Walmart, Aldi's, Krogers, and Rural King in the last few days and at every one there was rubber gloves and masks laying around in the parking lot. Walmart was the worst though.

Nasty inconsiderate ****ing people

 

[smokingman]

What states are reporting to the public varies. Some states are giving a great deal of information. Some states I think are doing well.
https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/situation.html

Coronavirus (COVID-19) | Department of Health | State of Louisiana

https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/

https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/home

https://www.doh.wa.gov/emergencies/coronavirus

https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/home/dashboard

https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83

Indiana has improved greatly in the last 4 days(demographics and other information added),but has a ways to go to catch up to the amount of information other states are giving.
https://coronavirus.in.gov/

 

[smokingman]

Perdue Farms chicken plant workers walk out. I tried to find the USDA plant number so we could see the size of the impact.
I did not find it,so I am unsure what percentage 50 workers is of the facility.
https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/0...t-workers-walk-out-over-coronavirus-concerns/
Another poultry plant (Alabama) Workers are wanting it shut down due to so many testing positive at the plant(only 6 out of 1200 workers that I could verify).

https://www.wtvy.com/content/news/W...-closed-amid-COVID-19-pandemic-569322911.html
No matter the percentage workers walking out of food processing facilities is and could become a large problem.

Beef industry view on current prices and future demand declines.Pointing out beef is more sensative when consumer employment is down.
Expects a loss of over 9 billion compared to 2019,for 2020.
https://www.hpj.com/latzke/coronavi...al&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share


Plant nurseries are shutting down,and throwing away plants(article if about UK not US but we have issues as well).
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...troyed-nurseries-garden-centres-a9439071.html


Minnesota nurseries.
https://www.swnewsmedia.com/chanhas...cle_bba94564-46f0-556c-ae6b-e303ea800ca8.html

Break down of the nation by state for green houses and nurseries.
https://www.gardencentermag.com/article/greenhouses-nurseries-garden-centers-essential-coronavirus/



https://www.profoodworld.com/covid-...f-of-processors-have-supply-chain-disruptions
4/3/2020
[FONT=&amp]According to ProFood World’s most recent reader poll, nearly half or 48% of respondents(food processors) are currently experiencing supply chain disruption for goods such as equipment, packaging materials, ingredients, and other plant supplies. Several cited the disruption of goods from Asia and inability to obtain masks and hand sanitizer for plant workers. Here is a sample of responses received this week concerning the supply chain disruption.[/FONT]

• Ingredients are harder to get; [there are] less days available to get trucks to deliver.
• Some spare parts suppliers have been listed as non-essential and have shut down.
• Lead times for packaging supplies have been extended. High demand for packaging needs.
• Getting four-week delay for packaging.
• Slow down on servo motors, drives, and ribbon cables from China.
• Our suppliers are overwhelmed by increased demand and [are] limiting our ability to purchase more.
• A large number of our materials and packaging are purchased from India and China. Luckily, we had multiple months of supply stateside prior to the major disruption. Additionally, we are now seeing disruption stateside with shipments of some materials.

[FONT=&amp]Optimism prevails

JBS is the largest beef processor in the USA. The plant is still operating,but production is down.
[/FONT]https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/31/jbs-meat-plant-greeley-colorado-coronavirus/
[FONT=&amp]Several hundred workers at the JBS USA meat processing plant in Greeley called off work Monday as a handful of cases of the novel coronavirus were confirmed among employees.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]About 500 people called off in the morning and another 400 did not go to work in the evening, said Kim Cordova, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Local 7[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]“I don’t believe it was a concerted effort by the workers to stage a protest,” she said. “I absolutely believe somebody may have exposed them, or they’re afraid, or maybe folks are sick. I don’t want to speculate until we get the information.


”[/FONT]https://www.ontariofarmer.com/livestock/quebec-processor-shutdown-has-ripple-effect
[FONT=&amp]The temporary shutdown of the Olymel pork processing plant at Yamachiche has had a ripple effect across Eastern Canada.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]The plant, which had doubled slaughter capacity last May, was slaughtering 22,000 pigs per week at the time of closure. It was closed after nine of its employees tested positive for COVID-19.


I am going to make this clear. I do not want everyone to panic. I posted the above information for one reason. So you could prepare.
Supply issues will continue. We are going through a period none of us have lived through before. Events unfold rapidly.
Things that where not an issue yesterday,can become an issue today or in the near future.

Things are not going back to normal anytime soon,and will likely get worse.

Do you have enough food,a basic part of our lives for yourself and those you love if supply issues become more pronounced?

Can you plant a garden?

Prepare.

Be well,be safe,you are loved.

It is not just me sounding the alarm. The United Nations is as well.
[/FONT]https://thehill.com/policy/internat...of-global-food-shortage-caused-by-coronavirus
The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) warned of the impact of the COVID-19 virus on the global food supply chain in a notice on their website writing: “We risk a looming food crisis unless measures are taken fast to protect the most vulnerable, keep global food supply chains alive and mitigate the pandemic’s impacts across the food system.”

I have updated this list before. This is becoming an issue faster than I though.
It is not just export restrictions,which are expanding daily.

It is not just supply line problems(take for example most of the EU and Great Britain not having egg cartons to get eggs to markets so the eggs are rotting).
The impact of shutdown or slowing of food processors due to covid-19.

Or even the solar minimum which still has states like North Dakota struggling to harvest last years corn from fields in April of 2020. Italy just wrote off 90-100% of the grape harvest of 2020 with the worst frost seen in over 60 years hitting already budding plants in the first few days of April 2020.

India the largest tea producer in the world is not harvesting anything and expects tea production to be down 90%,and the lack of care for plants may take years to recover from.

India also has reduced food oil production by over 50% due to a lack of imports of seeds to make oil from China. They export around 20% of the food oils for the world.

The price wars and demand/lack of demand issues,for example beef prices crashed driving many smaller producers out of business. Restaurant demand stopped,while house hold demand spiked,but if you can not get product to the stores because you lack the packaging and processing ability the price crashes.

The Dutch have over a million tons of potatoes left that normally would go to restaurants in Europe. Now they are trying to get them to consumers at the store level,but packaging is a serious issue. Most consumers do not want 23kg bags of potatoes.The price has spiked so low farmers and processors are going out of business. It is a large surplus with no way to get it where it needs to go. Many of the normal packaging plants in Europe are shut down,some from covid-19 others because of a lack of material from China.

Labor issues due to so many countries all over the world using migrant workers,that are now restricted from entering countries.

We have a real mess. Not one that can easily be fixed. I talked about supply system problems back in early February,and even mentioned just last week we had not felt the effects yet. Now it appears we are seeing some of those world wide.

It is not just food. It is hitting everything. Every impact sends a ripple effect out. Sometimes a lack of demand in say restaurants causes a spike in house hold demand,one our supply systems are failing to be able to adjust to.

In Great Britain they are already talking about setting up a rationing program like they did in world war 2. With the government taking over production,processors,and delivery of consumer staples.

Our just in time supply system broke. It really is that simple. Not just in the USA,but the world. You are most likely not going to starve. You do not need to panic. But if you have some food you prefer you may want to get more of it.

At this point I think the next 2-4 years will see huge changes. I understood months ago nationalism would rise all over the world. It has. What I did not see coming where individual states within countries fighting over supplies. Right now it is mainly medical supplies,but I think soon food may follow that trend(it has already started in Asia and is spreading into the EU). Take southern Italy made up of largely farmers,the military was called in because they stopped shipments of food to northern Italy.

What can we do to prepare for this? You can stock up on items you want. You can start a garden.I have a strong feeling gardening will be pushed nationally here in the USA very soon,it would be a good thing.

I could get into the politics of nations,states,or even political parties impact on the supply issues,but I am not going to. I am aware that it is happening though. It is not going to do any good to focus on it. It is a response to the problems,yes it can make them worse but it does nothing to argue over a symptom of the problem.

Prepare.
Be well,be safe,you are loved.


Adding this.

“Senior Leadership Brief COVID-19” and dated April 2, 2020, bears the seals of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Health and Human Services. It contains a brief description of findings made by the Food Supply Chain Task Force on the availability of PPE.
Such equipment has been in short supply in hospitals, where doctors and nurses are routinely exposed to high amounts of coronavirus. The food industry also relies on a variety of protective equipment for food safety.
The April 2 briefing warns that the task force had completed an analysis and there could be “commodity impacts if current PPE inventory is exhausted.” There would be shortages of milk within 24 hours and of fresh fruits and vegetables “within several days.” The document estimates that “meat, poultry, seafood, and processed eggs” would become scarce within a period of two to four weeks, while “dry goods and processed foods inventories” — that is, the non-perishables that are pantry staples — could become scarce “as soon as four weeks” after face masks and gloves run out across the food supply chain.

https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-...tages-says-government-document-223308504.html
https://www.dhs.gov/taxonomy/term/3486/all/feed

 

[cobber]

Nasty inconsiderate ****ing people

You left out "feral". It's a question whether they're actually people or not...

 

[Ziggidy]

 

[DadSmith]

This season CDC estimates that, as of mid-March, 29,000 and 59,000 have died due to influenza illnesses.

Wuhan virus 8,024

Good thing we don't shut down business every flu season or we would be about like Somalia economically.

 

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[cobber]

This season CDC estimates that, as of mid-March, 29,000 and 59,000 have died due to influenza illnesses.

Wuhan virus 8,024

Good thing we don't shut down business every flu season or we would be about like Somalia economically.

That would make some people very happy indeed. Especially if they got to play warlord as a consequence.