Climate change legit after all! Who woulda thunk it?

[jamil]

That IU feels is necessarynto teach climate change is a part of physics should be a huge red flag, not some sort of supporting fact.

Acting like you're not on the up and up is a fair motivator for skepticism.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

Is this the "NEW RELIGION" of the 40 and under crowd?AL GORE is the new POPE at the CHICAGO CLIMATE EXCHANGE. See CCX-DOW JONES

 

[Fargo]

Acting like you're not on the up and up is a fair motivator for skepticism.

I think that "religion" currently has its nose farther into the science tent than it was in Copernicus' time. Kinda like 1down says, we are just selling carbon credits instead of indulgences these days.

 

[Mikey1911]

We ate the banana. We did not name it.

I meant to suggest that the arm would be named for ADM Rickover.
Dad worked for Westinghouse in a plant where a lot of Navy equipment was manufactured. He said you never saw so many managers in absolute fear of a 125 pound guy as they were of Rickover when he visited on an inspection tour.

 

[Woobie]

I think that "religion" currently has its nose farther into the science tent than it was in Copernicus' time. Kinda like 1down says, we are just selling carbon credits instead of indulgences these days.

Thats a really good parallel.

 

[actaeon277]

I meant to suggest that the arm would be named for ADM Rickover.
Dad worked for Westinghouse in a plant where a lot of Navy equipment was manufactured. He said you never saw so many managers in absolute fear of a 125 pound guy as they were of Rickover when he visited on an inspection tour.

Did you ever read about him?
They were afraid for a good reason. He took NO excuses and DEMANDED things be done his way.

 

[actaeon277]

UntIL he retired, he personally interviewed EVERY nuclear officer.
And if he said no, they were gone. No reason given or asked.

 

[HubertGummer]

No. Money. The Green Industrial Complex.

I can see this being the case for the green companies, however I think .gov has deeper reasons.
The government already gets my money. They would love to tell me how to live and what I am or am not allowed to do.

 

[Mikey1911]

UntIL he retired, he personally interviewed EVERY nuclear officer.
And if he said no, they were gone. No reason given or asked.

Ted Rockwell's book "The Rickover Effect".
I declined an opportunity to interview with Circle W at Idaho Falls.
Maybe if I had gone out there they would have changed me from an EE into a NR Nuc, and I could have met HGR. Whether I would have survived the interview is a good question.

 

[jamil]

I can see this being the case for the green companies, however I think .gov has deeper reasons.
The government already gets my money. They would love to tell me how to live and what I am or am not allowed to do.

Crony doesn't work without both halves.

 

[Lex Concord]

And us Reactor Operators, well when we did something right, a door opened up on the RPCP (Reactor Plant Control Panel) and a mechanical arm extended, with a banana. To reward us for a job "well done".

I thought it was doughnuts...

 

[actaeon277]

I thought it was doughnuts...

No donuts on subs.

 

[Lex Concord]

No donuts on subs.

Makes sense... I guess you could end up like this guy and risk not fitting through the hatch...

 

[Ericpwp]

I just saw him in a movie my wife was watching.

 

[actaeon277]

Makes sense... I guess you could end up like this guy and risk not fitting through the hatch...

The danger is real.

 

[Lex Concord]

So, in an effort to contribute something serious to the thread, I give you this: Skeptical Climate Scientists Coming In From the Cold | RealClearInvestigations

 

[rhino]

So, in an effort to contribute something serious to the thread, I give you this: Skeptical Climate Scientists Coming In From the Cold | RealClearInvestigations

Putting such ugliness aside, some experts doubt that the science will improve even if the Trump administration asks new research questions and funding spreads to myriad proposals. Richard Lindzen, the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at MIT and a member of the National Academy of Sciences who has long questioned climate change orthodoxy, is skeptical that a sunnier outlook is upon us.


“I actually doubt that,” he said. Even if some of the roughly $2.5 billion in taxpayer dollars currently spent on climate research across 13 different federal agencies now shifts to scientists less invested in the calamitous narrative, Lindzen believes groupthink has so corrupted the field that funding should be sharply curtailed rather than redirected.


“They should probably cut the funding by 80 to 90 percent until the field cleans up,” he said. “Climate science has been set back two generations, and they have destroyed its intellectual foundations.”


The field is cluttered with entrenched figures who must toe the established line, he said, pointing to a recent congressional report that found the Obama administration got a top Department of Energy scientist fired and generally intimidated the staff to conform with its politicized position on climate change.


“Remember this was a tiny field, a backwater, and then suddenly you increased the funding to billions and everyone got into it,” Lindzen said. “Even in 1990 no one at MIT called themselves a ‘climate scientist,’ and then all of a sudden everyone was. They only entered it because of the bucks; they realized it was a gravy train. You have to get it back to the people who only care about the science.”

Professor Lindzen couldn't be any more correct. He's spot-on about the money, the bandwagon jumpers, and the intellectual corruption.

 

[ATM]

Professor Lindzen couldn't be any more correct...

Just go ahead and say it ...he reminds you of me, doesn't he?

I went out to the garage to retrieve a 12-pack of Mtn Dew the other day, but my wife must have accidentally (or perhaps not accidentally) bought diet Mtn Dew. ew.

Do you know anyone who likes that or might want it before I just throw it away? Let me know.

 

[actaeon277]

To the argument, "It's settled science, like gravity.", I argue that gravity is still a theory. In fact, it's still a VERY big debate.
Gravitation - Conservapedia

So if gravity is a debate, then why would climate (change) not be?

 

[ART338WM]

I don't care what ANYONE SAYS concerning climate change as long as those forcing it upon us stand to make BILLIONS of dollars if they're legislation becomes law, I can not and will not accept any of it as truth and neither should any other thinking person.

Can anyone else name any other case when a scientific hypothesis became accepted fact virtually over night? If I am to understand the process properly it usually takes years for a hypothesis to become accepted fact to the entire world wide scientific community. By comparison Global worming became world wide accepted scientific fact virtually over night and it is also undeniable it's acceptance has been driven to great extent by a profiteering political agenda.