Ahhhh, but preschool Mon through Fri and licensed daycare is a at most Mon through Sat, Sunday is Church only, should not fall under that guide line while attending church on Sundays.
Nursery, Daycare, All the same, Right? And they have teachers teaching the older kids about God. Sunday School anyone?
Not quite the same. And under the definitions for daycare and nursery churches are exempt because they are not required to be licensed for the most part.
Look I just don't want to do anything that would get my license revoked. You understand right?
Yep I understand that.
Prove that it's legal to carry in church while Sunday School and the daycare's are going and then I will carry. Until then I will continue being stubborn, like my fiance says, and just not go. I haven't been to church in a couple months now. I only go a few times a year. It's hard to sit through a sermon when they start focusing on how much money they've earned how big their church is getting, all the overseas trips they take, etc.
Church + Money = Greed
Kingsway anyone? PCC? All about money, every Sunday.
See... This is exactly why I won't carry in our church. I leave it in the car or something. I don't want to be the test case for this subject. Plus there's too much crap going on to make a concious desicion to put my rights in jeapordy. School or nusery or not, Until she finds a church that doesn't have a licensed day care I won't carry in church. *cough*
The prohibition against carrying at a school or day care makes it illegal to leave it in the car. You can carry to drop off or pick up someone if and only if you stay in the car.
Doug
See... This is exactly why I won't carry in our church. I leave it in the car or something. I don't want to be the test case for this subject. Plus there's too much crap going on to make a concious desicion to put my rights in jeapordy. School or nusery or not, Until she finds a church that doesn't have a licensed day care I won't carry in church. *cough*
This is what confuses me on Indiana Code, what your talking about is I think this
IC 35-47-9-1
(3) A person who:
(A) may legally possess a firearm; and
(B) possesses the firearm in a motor vehicle that is being operated by the person to transport another person to or from a school or a school function.
Where IC 35-47-2-1
IC 35-47-2-1
Carrying a handgun without a license or by person convicted of domestic battery
Sec. 1. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b) and section 2 of this chapter, a person shall not carry a handgun in any vehicle or on or about the person's body, except in the person's dwelling, on the person's property or fixed place of business, without a license issued under this chapter being in the person's possession.
(b) Unless the person's right to possess a firearm has been restored under IC 35-47-4-7, a person who has been convicted of domestic battery under IC 35-42-2-1.3 may not possess or carry a handgun in any vehicle or on or about the person's body in the person's dwelling or on the person's property or fixed place of business.
According to IC there is a difference between possess and carry what is what?
WTF is the definition of possess and carry? According to websters
POSSESS
1 a: to have and hold as property : own b: to have as an attribute, knowledge, or skill2 a: to take into one's possession b: to enter into and control firmly : dominate <was possessed by demons> c: to bring or cause to fall under the influence, possession, or control of some emotional or intellectual response or reaction
CARRY
1: to move while supporting
5: to get possession or control of
8 a: to wear or have on one's person
If the church counts as a "school" then leaving it in your car is just as illegal as carrying it.
I would strongly recommend you get Ciyou's book "Indiana Handgun Law."
Indiana Code 20-18-2IC 35-47-9-1
Exemptions from chapter
Sec. 1. This chapter does not apply to the following:
(1) A:
(A) federal;
(B) state; or
(C) local;
law enforcement officer.
(2) A person who has been employed or authorized by:
(A) a school; or
(B) another person who owns or operates property being used by a school for a school function;
to act as a security guard, perform or participate in a school function, or participate in any other activity authorized by a school.
(3) A person who:
(A) may legally possess a firearm; and
(B) possesses the firearm in a motor vehicle that is being operated by the person to transport another person to or from a school or a school function.
US CODE: Title 18,921. DefinitionsIC 20-18-2-15
"Public school"
Sec. 15. "Public school":
(1) for purposes of this title (other than IC 20-33-1), means a school maintained by a school corporation; and
(2) for purposes of IC 20-33-1, means:
(A) a school maintained by a school corporation; or
(B) a preschool, an elementary school, or a high school maintained by a state educational institution under IC 20-24.5 or another law.
US CODE: Title 18,922. Unlawful acts(25) The term “school zone” means— (A) in, or on the grounds of, a public, parochial or private school; or
(B) within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a public, parochial or private school.
(26) The term “school” means a school which provides elementary or secondary education, as determined under State law.
(A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.
(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm—
(i) on private property not part of school grounds;
(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;
(iii) that is—
(I) not loaded; and
(II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;
(iv) by an individual for use in a program approved by a school in the school zone;
(v) by an individual in accordance with a contract entered into between a school in the school zone and the individual or an employer of the individual;
(vi) by a law enforcement officer acting in his or her official capacity; or
(vii) that is unloaded and is possessed by an individual while traversing school premises for the purpose of gaining access to public or private lands open to hunting, if the entry on school premises is authorized by school authorities.