It's already policy to slow walk any gun brought in to the system in Marion County for years.Holy crap, that is a LOT of "what ifs". You'd also have to change Dept policy that a CIVILIAN board controls as well as 7th Circuit Case Law. There are so many "what ifs" and assumptions that we might as well be discussing aliens from outer space.
That policy is or has been changed though. There was an entire thread about it here and the guy from WISH-TV did a report on it, which prompted the policy change.It's already policy to slow walk any gun brought in to the system in Marion County for years.
You just have to read of all the people here in INGO alone who can't get their guns returned to them.
To simply say that all guns encountered in the daily duties of police stops need to be confiscated and checked to see if they're stolen, is not a bunch of "what ifs".
That sounds unconstitutional. They can't just confiscate property to see if it might be stolen and take forever to give it back.It's already policy to slow walk any gun brought in to the system in Marion County for years.
You just have to read of all the people here in INGO alone who can't get their guns returned to them.
To simply say that all guns encountered in the daily duties of police stops need to be confiscated and checked to see if they're stolen, is not a bunch of "what ifs".
I'm kind of hung on up your earlier claim that this would somehow still be legal.It's already policy to slow walk any gun brought in to the system in Marion County for years.
You just have to read of all the people here in INGO alone who can't get their guns returned to them.
To simply say that all guns encountered in the daily duties of police stops need to be confiscated and checked to see if they're stolen, is not a bunch of "what ifs".
"Policy" in the property room. It is run and staffed by civilians and officers have no idea what they do with the property we bring to them. I have no idea if that was even a written policy or since they've been doing it since the 70's, they just continued it...because.It's already policy to slow walk any gun brought in to the system in Marion County for years.
You just have to read of all the people here in INGO alone who can't get their guns returned to them.
To simply say that all guns encountered in the daily duties of police stops need to be confiscated and checked to see if they're stolen, is not a bunch of "what ifs".
I did hear mention of this awhile back, but haven't heard any accounts of people here in INGO having their guns returned.That policy is or has been changed though. There was an entire thread about it here and the guy from WISH-TV did a report on it, which prompted the policy change.
IMPD policy update
Good morning, Today we will be doing a follow-up to our IMPD gun policy story. I have been told the department has changed their policy on which guns are sent to the crime labwww.indianagunowners.com
IMPD policy on seized guns called into question
INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — The Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department has thousands of guns in its property room. Many of the guns have been connected to a crime. Some of them have not. The police department sends every single gun to the ballistic lab for testing. The data is sent to the federal...www.wishtv.com
It doesn't have to be a written policy to not promptly return people's firearms unless there's a just reason not to."Policy" in the property room. It is run and staffed by civilians and officers have no idea what they do with the property we bring to them. I have no idea if that was even a written policy or since they've been doing it since the 70's, they just continued it...because.
Again, I am bound by my General Orders that prohibit such a practice. That G.O. prohibition is based on 7th Circuit case law and other applicable State law and SCOTUS decisions. Unless you change State law and case law, it will never happen. Yes, I said NEVER.
Solid feedback. Maybe somebody could explain it to Hogwash. Maybe somebody, like say, the IMPD Chief.The State would have to create a State Law doing what the Mayor wants. The CCC can only create City Ordinances where the only consequences are fines. No one can go to jail for an ordinance violation. Most patrol officers care little for ordinance violations. They have their hands full with ACTUAL criminal activity.
Last I recall hearing, the policy was "under review". That's a bit different than the policy has been "changed". Though I suppose it may have been changed and I simply hadn't heard about it.I did hear mention of this awhile back, but haven't heard any accounts of people here in INGO having their guns returned.
I'm still in a "show me" mode.
Ok, still has nothing to do with me or ANYONE who actually does police work and has no bearing on your idea that we are drones that do what the Mayor wants. Nothing is further from the truth.It doesn't have to be a written policy to not promptly return people's firearms unless there's a just reason not to.
The reality is, the guns aren't being promply returned, and nobody in Indy government cares or the situation would be corrected.
Who's to say he hasn't? It's unlikely the Mayor consulted IMPD for any of this.Solid feedback. Maybe somebody could explain it to Hogwash. Maybe somebody, like say, the IMPD Chief.
Ah, an unknown Republican candidate. That worked out SOOOOO well the last time. One of the worse Administrations in my lifetime here. Even worse than Petterson.Jefferson Shreve.
I'm looking forward to seeing a bill introduced in the next General Assembly session that will prohibit such a policy."Policy" in the property room. It is run and staffed by civilians and officers have no idea what they do with the property we bring to them. I have no idea if that was even a written policy or since they've been doing it since the 70's, they just continued it...because.
Again, I am bound by my General Orders that prohibit such a practice. That G.O. prohibition is based on 7th Circuit case law and other applicable State law and SCOTUS decisions. Unless you change State law and case law, it will never happen. Yes, I said NEVER.
Stay your sword, Centurion.Ah, an unknown Republican candidate. That worked out SOOOOO well the last time. One of the worse Administrations in my lifetime here. Even worse than Petterson.
Ah, an unknown Republican candidate. That worked out SOOOOO well the last time. One of the worse Administrations in my lifetime here. Even worse than Petterson.
The devil you know. Shreve's tv ads regarding IMPD was proof he had NO IDEA the current issues are nor how to address them. I don't think he has a chance to beat Hogsett. We shall see though.I wouldn't compare the two.. Ballard honestly never expected to win, and was evident had no clue what the job entailed at the start.
Shreve does have city county council experience, so they have some idea of what needs to happen.
Don't forget that Hogsett did have a fairly serious primary challenge, so things are not all that solid on the D side...
I think he is vulnerable.
If only we could get him to debate The bored rich guy(tm) and he could ask that. But alas, mayor stinky shoes only appears like a groundhog for photo ops. he'd never agree to a debate.@Denny347
Where was hog**** when the rioters were burning and looting the city and he told law enforcement to stand down?
Where was he on May 29, 2021, May 30, 2021, and May 31 of 2021?
Where was he and what was he doing?
But only because the city is full of ignorant blind dem lever pullers.The devil you know. Shreve's tv ads regarding IMPD was proof he had NO IDEA the current issues are nor how to address them. I don't think he has a chance to beat Hogsett. We shall see though.
We will see, it depends on how much Hogsett keeps screwing up, that seems to be the only way an R can win in Indy, the D just needs to screw things up bad enough to make people hate him and pull the other lever in spite.The devil you know. Shreve's tv ads regarding IMPD was proof he had NO IDEA the current issues are nor how to address them. I don't think he has a chance to beat Hogsett. We shall see though.