Black Slave Owners in the United States

[DadSmith]

Correcting nonsense. Mr. 300,000 Irish slaves in a decade/African slaves had it better than the Irish indentured servants... was akin to “Dad gettin’ loud” ....so “I had to check him.” Lol

So basically trolling with no historical proof.

 

[Kutnupe14]

So basically trolling with no historical proof.

It’s not trolling when you make someone eat their words, nor when you ask them questions they cannot answer without them undermining their own argument.

 

[DadSmith]

It’s not trolling when you make someone eat their words, nor when you ask them questions they cannot answer without them undermining their own argument.

Yet you have not done any of that. I've given you historical proof which you refused to read but continue to argue. Where is your proof of what you stand on surely there is a multitude of college professors who have studied and wrote articles that you can link us to prove your point.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Yet you have not done any of that. I've given you historical proof which you refused to read but continue to argue. Where is your proof of what you stand on surely there is a multitude of college professors who have studied and wrote articles that you can link us to prove your point.

You’ve given no proof debunking anything I’ve stated, and things you posted you’ve tried to shoehorn into disingenuous conclusion. The only thing factual you’ve posted, is that Africans enslaved Africans; and I’ve already said I agreed. Then you have this reparation talk; which makes zero sense, as you’re suggesting that the tribes that historically engaged in the trade.... hundreds of years later; pay reparations. You literally usurp you very own argument.

 

[indyartisan]

How can you support the group who brought the slave trade back to Libya?

 

[DadSmith]

You’ve given no proof debunking anything I’ve stated, and things you posted you’ve tried to shoehorn into disingenuous conclusion. The only thing factual you’ve posted, is that Africans enslaved Africans; and I’ve already said I agreed. Then you have this reparation talk; which makes zero sense, as you’re suggesting that the tribes that historically engaged in the trade.... hundreds of years later; pay reparations. You literally usurp you very own argument.

So if it makes zero sense to have those tribes pay reparations then how does it make sense for the majority of white people who's ancestors never owned slaves be forced to pay reparations? In 1860 there were 27 million none black people in the United States. Out of that under 385,000 people owned slaves. That's around 1.42% of the entire population. Why would 98.58% of white people pay reparations for slaves they or their ancestors never owned?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

So you're a math denier? You dont believe in math.

If you don’t believe my math you’re a math denier. If you don’t believe my science you’re a science denier.




Im a BS denier.

 

[DadSmith]

If you don’t believe my math you’re a math denier. If you don’t believe my science you’re a science denier.




Im a BS denier.

He's trying to dispute the professor and if you look at the professor's numbers it is correct math. He probably skimmed over it and misread a portion of it or didn't understand it.

 

[jamil]

So because a small percentage of black people also owned slaves that makes the whole system of American slavery okay?

If I'm misinterpreting your post please correct me.

How is that what you got out of it?

 

[kickbacked]

If you don’t believe my math you’re a math denier. If you don’t believe my science you’re a science denier.




Im a BS denier.

So you deny yourself, you wrote out an entire post about not posting anymore and yet here you are. So that was obviously BS.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

So you deny yourself, you wrote out an entire post about not posting anymore and yet here you are. So that was obviously BS.

Awwww, that hurt

Very witty

You sad I came back to call your bs?

 

[jamil]

I prefer a professor who actually studied this out over your 5 sec reply to fit your agenda.


Here's my agenda.

Make African tribes that rounded up and sold millions of Africans as slaves pay reparations.

What is your agenda?

Why do the descendants of people who did bad things according to the standards of today owe reparations for the people who did them in a time with different moral standards? I mean. How far are you willing to take the logical conclusion? And even if it were the right conclusion, how would you figure out who owes what to whom and how much? The people who owed the reparations are long dead. The people to whom the reparations are owed are dead. It’s an unrecoverable debt.

 

[jamil]

Professor of what? ‘Cause I wager it isn’t statics or logic.

And here’s a flaw in your logic. We’ve been hearing people say that since they didn’t own slaves or participate in the trade, then they shouldnt have to pay reparations. Shouldn’t that apply to the tribes, as well?

You’re killing your own argument.

That’s right. None of the people in those tribes are alive. None of the people they sold are alive. No one living today owes anyone anything for the slave era that happened long before they were born.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Why do the descendants of people who did bad things according to the standards of today owe reparations for the people who did them in a time with different moral standards? I mean. How far are you willing to take the logical conclusion? And even if it were the right conclusion, how would you figure out who owes what to whom and how much? The people who owed the reparations are long dead. The people to whom the reparations are owed are dead. It’s an unrecoverable debt.

I’ve been keeping tabs.


I’ll send you the bill.

 

[DadSmith]

Why do the descendants of people who did bad things according to the standards of today owe reparations for the people who did them in a time with different moral standards? I mean. How far are you willing to take the logical conclusion? And even if it were the right conclusion, how would you figure out who owes what to whom and how much? The people who owed the reparations are long dead. The people to whom the reparations are owed are dead. It’s an unrecoverable debt.

I'm willing to go back as far as Noah's Ark for reparation pay outs. There's trillions to be made you know.

 

[kickbacked]

Awwww, that hurt

Very witty

You sad I came back to call your bs?

You wrote out a diary entry about leaving and then never left. There wasn't even enough time to be sad.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

You wrote out a diary entry about leaving and then never left. There wasn't even enough time to be sad.

Lol well I took vacation and started a new job so obviously either I’m wrong or you are. But you educate professors so I’m sure you’ll tell me more about myself than I know.

 

[jamil]

I still have some back-reading to do in this thread, but there are some things I can say about what I've seen so far. The whole line of discussion about it's your math vs my professor, c'mon. The body of written literature about the subject is all over the place. If it's the fact that it's a professor that has rendered your erection then will any professor do? I mean the other side can go peddle their experts too. I kinda think this discussion isn't going to go anywhere close to a resolution, not that many do.

 

[KG1]

I'm willing to go back as far as Noah's Ark for reparation pay outs. There's trillions to be made you know.

It's pretty obvious that you were being sarcastic and don't really believe that anyone should be indebted to paying reparations for the actions of the past. I understood your point about those who are pushing for reparations should start with the descendants of African slave traders first.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I still have some back-reading to do in this thread, but there are some things I can say about what I've seen so far. The whole line of discussion about it's your math vs my professor, c'mon. The body of written literature about the subject is all over the place. If it's the fact that it's a professor that has rendered your erection then will any professor do? I mean the other side can go peddle their experts too. I kinda think this discussion isn't going to go anywhere close to a resolution, not that many do.

So why argue your math and not find a citation from a professional proving your point correctly, then debate or accept from there? Debates aren’t typically using a citation and quotes from a study and the other person saying “no, it’s wrong, I’m right” without providing some sort of quotes and citations of their own.