Big Problems if Trump is Indicted

[KG1]

Certainly it’s about the election, but also, I think the prosecutor is a left wing zealot and so maybe there’s some personal gains there too. Rachel’s mad cows have all been dreaming of putting Trump in jail for anything. It doesn’t matter what. How dare Trump win an election? So it’s also punishment.

One only has to look back to when Bragg specifically campaigned on getting Trump. It was a mainstay of his Democrat political aspirations.

 

[buckwacker]

One only has to look back to when Bragg specifically campaigned on getting Trump. It was a mainstay of his Democrat political aspirations.

Making the prosecution of an individual a theme of a prosecutors campaign for office should itself bring about some sort of legal repercussion for Bragg. He would lose his law license for it in a just world. After campaigning on "getting Trump" and then contorting the law into a mess of illogical and unrecognizable representations to that end, for naked political purposes, should earn him a view of the inside of a prison cell for the forseeable future. If this country is to survive, if respect for the rule of law is to be salvaged, these people need to suffer immensely the consequences of their lawlessness.

 

[KG1]

When speaking of Trump's indictment:

“We cannot and will not normalize serious criminal conduct,” Bragg said.

Your record of normalizing serious criminal conduct on the streets of NY says otherwise

 

[Ark]

Making the prosecution of an individual a theme of a prosecutors campaign for office should itself bring about some sort of legal repercussion for Bragg. He would lose his law license for it in a just world. After campaigning on "getting Trump" and then contorting the law into a mess of illogical and unrecognizable representations to that end, for naked political purposes, should earn him a view of the inside of a prison cell for the forseeable future. If this country is to survive, if respect for the rule of law is to be salvaged, these people need to suffer immensely the consequences of their lawlessness.

He's not going to be held accountable, because the entire series of people and institutions that exist in New York to provide accountability are top to bottom infested with Democrats who hate Trump.

 

[buckwacker]

He's not going to be held accountable, because the entire series of people and institutions that exist in New York to provide accountability are top to bottom infested with Democrats who hate Trump.

That's New York. When sane people get control of the DOJ, federal prisons need filled with people like Bragg. It's either that or we collapse into Sarajevo. Im thinking it's what they want.

 

[HoosierLife]

I haven’t read the indictment, so I don’t know what it contains, but I’m not certain electoral implications are central to the case.

I have seen reports from left-leaning YouTubers who speculate that the 30-some criminal charges are related to falsifying business records, a felony under the New York Penal Code.

Politically, the only scenario that works in Democrat’s favor is a conviction on all charges…anything less will just play right into Trump’s never-ending claims of victimhood.

That’s exactly what they’re doing. Because of how Trump and his lawyers paid for the hush money, it affected folks tax returns, thus they falsified their business records.

 

[KG1]

Bragg is saying it's a felony in NY to falsify business records with intent to defraud or intent to conceal another crime. What "other crime? " Has Trump been tried and convicted for this "other crime?"

What is the "other crime" that is your basis for this felony indictment? It doesn't say anything in the indictment about this "other crime". Without being tried and convicted of this "other crime" you have no standing to bring this case.

The Feds and the FEC have not determined that another crime has been, committed nor has there been any charges brought forth here for this "other crime". I can only assume that the "other crime" Bragg is referring to is that Trump has committed a campaign finance violation. No where that I am aware of has there been charges brought against Trump for any such violation.

Bragg and this case should be tossed out on their ass.

 

[KG1]

Seems to me the proper legal sequence if you want to bring this case is that Trump should've been tried for the "other crime" presumably a campaign finance violation and then a charge of falsifying business records to cover up THAT crime should be an additional count added on to that charge.

 

[HoosierLife]

Bragg is saying it's a felony in NY to falsify business records with intent to defraud or intent to conceal another crime. What "other crime? " Has Trump been tried and convicted for this "other crime?"

What is the "other crime" that is your basis for this felony indictment? It doesn't say anything in the indictment about this "other crime". Without being tried and convicted of this "other crime" you have no standing to bring this case.

The Feds and the FEC have not determined that another crime has been, committed nor has there been any charges brought forth here for this "other crime". I can only assume that the "other crime" Bragg is referring to is that Trump has committed a campaign finance violation. No where that I am aware of has there been charges brought against Trump for any such violation.

Bragg and this case should be tossed out on their ass.

I think the other crime is a tax crime.

Trump paid his lawyers a certain way, so they could claim it as income and it would be taxed differently.

Broke a tax law. Thus the falsifying of the business records becomes a felony?

Seems flimsy, but that’s the argument I think.

 

[KG1]

I think the other crime is a tax crime.

Trump paid his lawyers a certain way, so they could claim it as income and it would be taxed differently.

Broke a tax law. Thus the falsifying of the business records becomes a felony?

Seems flimsy, but that’s the argument I think.

I haven't seen that alleged in this indictment. I believe what you are referring to is another previous case unrelated to this. This indictment has nothing to do with breaking tax laws. It's about alleged campaign finance violation.

 

[Ingomike]

“The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday awarded Trump an additional $121,962.56 in attorney fees from porn star Stormy Daniels, AKA, Stephanie Clifford.”

“The order came down from the federal appeals court just as Trump left court for his arraignment on charges stemming from so-called ‘hush payments’ he made to Stormy Daniels.”

Trump Celebrates After 9th Circuit Court Awards Him $122,000 From Stormy "Horseface" Daniels | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

President Trump on Tuesday revived his old nickname for porn star Stormy Daniels.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Bugzilla]

 

[HoosierLife]

I haven't seen that alleged in this indictment. I believe what you are referring to is another previous case unrelated to this. This indictment has nothing to do with breaking tax laws. It's about alleged campaign finance violation.

 

[Tombs]

It's going to be funny watching secret service testify against him, only to have to live in prison with him.

 

[actaeon277]

Having Secret Service testify... that's going to be interesting.
How are you going to guard a guy's life, if he now has to tell you to leave when he meets with anyone.

 

[actaeon277]

When even a CNN analyst is saying how stupid and wrong it is.

 

[Route 45]

Trump faces maximum sentence of 136 years in prison for 34-count indictment

Former President Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, which carries a maximum sentence of 136 years in prison.

www.foxnews.com

 

[blain]

He's not going to be held accountable, because the entire series of people and institutions that exist in New York to provide accountability are top to bottom infested with Democrats who hate Trump.

My guess is, when this falls through, he will be tossed aside like an empty disposable lighter.

 

[KG1]

Even though the indictment does't specify exactly what the "other crime" is that they will use Bragg says it isn't required by law in the initial outline of the indictment and goes on to list a couple of laws that could be used in this falsifying business record case.

Quoted from the article that R45 posted above.

Trump faces maximum sentence of 136 years in prison for 34-count indictment

Former President Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, which carries a maximum sentence of 136 years in prison.

www.foxnews.com

"Let me say as an initial matter that the indictment doesn't specify it because the law does not so require. In my remarks, I mentioned a couple of laws which I will highlight again now," Bragg said. "The first is New York state election law, which makes it a crime to conspire to promote a candidacy by unlawful means. I further indicated a number of unlawful means, including additional false statements, including statements that were planned to be made to tax authorities. I also noted the federal election law cap on contribution limits."

Bragg accused Trump and his associates of employing a "catch and kill" scheme to bury potentially damaging information ahead of the 2016 election.

"TRUMP then went to great lengths to hide this conduct, causing dozens of false entries in business records to conceal criminal activity, including attempts to violate state and federal election laws," Bragg alleged. "In total, 34 false entries were made in New York business records to conceal the initial covert $130,000 payment."

 

[KG1]

If anyone is interested here is a link to the NY falsifying business records in the 1st degree penal code.

https://nycourts.gov/judges/cji/2-PenalLaw/175/175.10.pdf

Think I'll take a break. I've been knee deep in posting on this since the indictment was revealed.