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  • JettaKnight

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    Wait - is that paraphrased? I'm pretty sure that Saul didn't write "common core".



    I'm not sure who wants socialism more: Bernie Bros. or INGOers that need something to complain about.
     

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    Wait - is that paraphrased? I'm pretty sure that Saul didn't write "common core".



    I'm not sure who wants socialism more: Bernie Bros. or INGOers that need something to complain about.
    The difference is that Bernie Bros actually want socialism. Ingo'ers complain about socialism because they don't.
     

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    The difference is that Bernie Bros actually want socialism. Ingo'ers complain about socialism because they don't.
    Eh.... Sometimes it seems some are too eager to put on their Hawaiian print shirts.


    About the only thing that seems to be holding them back is the fear of the 2A and the deplorables who will exercise that right:ar15:
    Getting Dam* close if we don't do something soon....
     

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    I don't think the graphic in the OP was taken from Saul Alinsky's writings. We have to be careful not to get caught up in fakery. If I'm mistaken, I'd love to see the citation(s)/references(s) behind the graphic. As best I can tell, and I haven't spent a lot of time on it, the source for the OP graphic is anonymous. Not saying the things on that list are good things, just that we have to be careful about accuracy in sourcing, etc. That's all.
     

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    I don't think the graphic in the OP was taken from Saul Alinsky's writings. We have to be careful not to get caught up in fakery. If I'm mistaken, I'd love to see the citation(s)/references(s) behind the graphic. As best I can tell, and I haven't spent a lot of time on it, the source for the OP graphic is anonymous. Not saying the things on that list are good things, just that we have to be careful about accuracy in sourcing, etc. That's all.
    Cherry picking, slight alterations, etc.
     

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    Eh.... Sometimes it seems some are too eager to put on their Hawaiian print shirts.
    Some would simply prefer to not have to put the shirt on at all. Strangely, we struggle accepting every single step in that direction as simply "not there yet" and ignoring it as if the end goal didn't exist.

    A head in the sand likely offers a freedom from the fears of what's out there but I prefer the air up here.
     

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    Some would simply prefer to not have to put the shirt on at all. Strangely, we struggle accepting every single step in that direction as simply "not there yet" and ignoring it as if the end goal didn't exist.

    A head in the sand likely offers a freedom from the fears of what's out there but I prefer the air up here.
    I'm just wondering how far up in the air you are; you can get light headed and loopy if you get up to high. ;)


    Socialism, and even less so Communism, is the end goal of the Bernie Bros, but there's a whole lot of people that voted for Biden that want none of that crap. INGO does a very poor job in distinguishing that.
     

    Ingomike

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    I'm just wondering how far up in the air you are; you can get light headed and loopy if you get up to high. ;)


    Socialism, and even less so Communism, is the end goal of the Bernie Bros, but there's a whole lot of people that voted for Biden that want none of that crap. INGO does a very poor job in distinguishing that.
    Maybe it is because those you claim voted Bidet that don't have communism as a goal, are allowing those they voted for to implement the list, no matter who wrote it...
     

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    I don't think the graphic in the OP was taken from Saul Alinsky's writings. We have to be careful not to get caught up in fakery. If I'm mistaken, I'd love to see the citation(s)/references(s) behind the graphic. As best I can tell, and I haven't spent a lot of time on it, the source for the OP graphic is anonymous. Not saying the things on that list are good things, just that we have to be careful about accuracy in sourcing, etc. That's all.

    Snope's says it wasn't written by Saul Alinsky, and no one seems to know who did. Several other websites say the same thing.
     

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    I don't think the graphic in the OP was taken from Saul Alinsky's writings. We have to be careful not to get caught up in fakery. If I'm mistaken, I'd love to see the citation(s)/references(s) behind the graphic. As best I can tell, and I haven't spent a lot of time on it, the source for the OP graphic is anonymous. Not saying the things on that list are good things, just that we have to be careful about accuracy in sourcing, etc. That's all.
    ^^^ THIS ^^^

    Enough real progressive **** they are attempting without posting easily proven fakes.

    FWIW, I think turning Alinsky's rules for radicals back on them is the best course.

    Just a few, but Biden, Pelosky and poopy-pants Nader almost ridicule themselves just by existing.

    And, living by their own rules? #MeToo... Cuomo, not so much.
     

    JettaKnight

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    I wrote this in another thread, but seems more appropriate here.

    INGO seems to find the communist like a K9 smells weed at a traffic stop.


    The media we consume acts like a great big magnifying glass, because that's what keeps our eyes glued to it. Facebook et al have extremely powerful computers that know what to show you to keep your eyes glued to it. Writers at new aggregation and opinion sites (what now passes at "news") know exactly how to exaggerate things to get clicks. Meme creators don't get dopamine hit from producing nuanced, thoughtful images, but from portraying things as black and white in a very visceral way. Politicians don't score points by telling constituents that issues are complicated and require a great deal of study and thought.
    No one scores internet points by saying, "things aren't as bad as you think."

    It's true for every issue: COVID-19, immigration (both sides of the issue), taxes, welfare, China, etc., etc.
     

    Ingomike

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    I wrote this in another thread, but seems more appropriate here.


    No one scores internet points by saying, "things aren't as bad as you think."

    It's true for every issue: COVID-19, immigration (both sides of the issue), taxes, welfare, China, etc., etc.
    As long as we are reposting from the other thread...


    Only one party is changing America, Aided by voices like yours...
     

    Ingomike

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    I wrote this in another thread, but seems more appropriate here.


    No one scores internet points by saying, "things aren't as bad as you think."

    It's true for every issue: COVID-19, immigration (both sides of the issue), taxes, welfare, China, etc., etc.
    For 70 years those on the conservative side have acquiesced via "compromise" to the demands of the left. Other than a few tax cuts, (that never had spending cuts attached) just what has the left given in the conservative direction?

    Nothing I know of...
     
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