Amazon workers just voted to join a union

[JettaKnight]

So in the Amazon facilities they don't have truck drivers, forklift operators, electrician/maintenance dept, actual delivery drivers. I guess FedEx, UPS, postal workers etc are just basically burger flippers.

Seems to be a lot of arrogance and self importance these days.

You denigrated fast food workers, and call others arrogant...

After watching Mike Rowe on Dirty Jobs for years, I've lost the taste for denigrating any job.

 

[wtburnette]

The company is heavily bloated with management, and they are not willing to pay for good management. They would apparently rather have a revolving door of fresh people. It works out I guess there is always someone to blame things on and it isn't really a loss when they go. Keeps the dirt off of upper managements hands that way, even though they are the ones creating the mess.

Sure warehousing has different positions of skilled labor, but I sure would rather loose McDonald's before I lost all the delivery and warehouse workers. That alone tells me which one is more important.

Yeah, but no matter the importance level of a job, how much are you going to pay an unskilled worker who is doing manual labor?

 

[bwframe]

According to the union commentary this thread, all business management is terrible. The new union at Amazon must believe the same thing?

What should the new Amazon union do to start the takeover of that company, the same way as your union?


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[actaeon277]

According to the union commentary this thread, all business management is terrible. The new union at Amazon must believe the same thing?

What should the new Amazon union do to start the takeover of that company, the same way as your union?


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Not all.

But because a union wouldn't be good where you work, doesn't mean unions are useless all over.

 

[Jaybird1980]

You denigrated fast food workers, and call others arrogant...

After watching Mike Rowe on Dirty Jobs for years, I've lost the taste for denigrating any job.

I didn't denigrate anyone. I simply stated which one I see as more important to the economy, and I think warehousing and delivery drivers win hands down. It wasn't me that put all Amazon employees as entry level maybe you can read back.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Yeah, but no matter the importance level of a job, how much are you going to pay an unskilled worker who is doing manual labor?

You do realize that all the products in the stores are there because of warehousing and delivery right. Amazon is dependant on them for the business, if all of the Amazon warehouses were to unite and organize then they would have something.

I don't know how important this one facility is to Amazon.

 

[wtburnette]

You do realize that all the products in the stores are there because of warehousing and delivery right. Amazon is dependant on them for the business, if all of the Amazon warehouses were to unite and organize then they would have something.

I don't know how important this one facility is to Amazon.

I worked warehouse for years, so I kinda have a little bit of an understanding.

My guess is the one warehouse isn't that important to Amazon, but I guess we'll have to see.

 

[actaeon277]

I think if they were gonna unionize, they shoulda gotten all the workers.

Now they just set themselves up.

 

[Jaybird1980]

I worked warehouse for years, so I kinda have a little bit of an understanding.

My guess is the one warehouse isn't that important to Amazon, but I guess we'll have to see.

It was mentioned up thread that this facility might be more important than some. I don't know if that's correct or not. We will see.

 

[wtburnette]

It was mentioned up thread that this facility might be more important than some. I don't know if that's correct or not. We will see.

True, but it also may be more important to them to set an example for the rest of the warehouses.

 

[ghuns]

That is dam good money. What a shame folks are not applying.

I see commercials all the time run by the iron workers and electrical union looking for apprentices. Back in ye olden days, like the 90s, you had to know somebody to get into those trades.

Tool making was the same back then, and I didn't know anybody. I had every door in town slammed in my face 2-3 times. One shop owner either admired my perseverance, or was just sick of me. He gave me the phone number for the man who ran the apprenticeship program for the department of labor. He said that guy would know what shops had apprentices close to finishing the program and I might get lucky if I targeted them.

I called that grouchy old SOB once a week for months. Again, either my perseverance or my ability to be a PITA moved him. He told me of a shop that was about to have an opening, said he'd put in a good work for me. That got me in the door.

In the last 10 years we've had exactly zero kids complete an apprenticeship. Had about a half dozen start. They were all losers. The kid we have now will probably make it. His dad is an engineer I've worked with in the past. One of the few that holds tool makers in high esteem. He'll beat the kid if he messes up.

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[DoggyDaddy]

One of the few that holds tool makers in high esteem.

At one of my stints at Allison when I was a GMI student (Industrial Engineering at the time), I was in the Plant Layout department, and my job was to design "hooks" (that's we called them - they were purpose-built material handling devices). I don't know if it would qualify as "tool maker", but our maintenance department made our "hooks".

We had one guy that everyone called Fergy (I think his last name was Ferguson) that was amazing. The joke used to be that Fergy could weld two pieces of paper together. The other guys in that department were good, but Fergy always went the extra mile. After fabricating my design, he'd sandblast it or something to totally hide all his welds. Those things were works of art! They were mostly made from CRS (Cold Rolled Steel) or BIP (Black Iron Pipe). I loved it when Fergy got assigned one of my designs.

 

[actaeon277]

I see commercials all the time run by the iron workers and electrical union looking for apprentices. Back in ye olden days, like the 90s, you had to know somebody to get into those trades.

Tool making was the same back then, and I didn't know anybody. I had every door in town slammed in my face 2-3 times. One shop owner either admired my perseverance, or was just sick of me. He gave me the phone number for the man who ran the apprenticeship program for the department of labor. He said that guy would know what shops had apprentices close to finishing the program and I might get lucky if I targeted them.

I called that grouchy old SOB once a week for months. Again, either my perseverance or my ability to be a PITA moved him. He told me of a shop that was about to have an opening, said he'd put in a good work for me. That got me in the door.

In the last 10 years we've had exactly zero kids complete an apprenticeship. Had about a half dozen start. They were all losers. The kid we have now will probably make it. His dad is an engineer I've worked with in the past. One of the few that holds tool makers in high esteem. He'll beat the kid if he messes up.

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Very few seem to want to, or know how to, use a wrench or screwdriver.
And few are willing to learn.
They've been sold that manual labor is BENEATH them.

 

[wtburnette]

Very few seem to want to, or know how to, use a wrench or screwdriver.
And few are willing to learn.
They've been sold that manual labor is BENEATH them.

Some change their tune when they find out how much they can make. Some.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Very few seem to want to, or know how to, use a wrench or screwdriver.

It's all a matter of using the right wrench to drive in the screw.

 

[Ziggidy]

What we do earn are things most of the non union workers dont get.

A penison
An 11% gross company paid annuity
Unbelievable Health, dental and vision
Five weeks paid vacation

Is that one of the reasons many jobs went overseas?

I'm happy you got so much, but at the expense of others?

 

[tmcindy]

I see commercials all the time run by the iron workers and electrical union looking for apprentices. Back in ye olden days, like the 90s, you had to know somebody to get into those trades.

Tool making was the same back then, and I didn't know anybody. I had every door in town slammed in my face 2-3 times. One shop owner either admired my perseverance, or was just sick of me. He gave me the phone number for the man who ran the apprenticeship program for the department of labor. He said that guy would know what shops had apprentices close to finishing the program and I might get lucky if I targeted them.

I called that grouchy old SOB once a week for months. Again, either my perseverance or my ability to be a PITA moved him. He told me of a shop that was about to have an opening, said he'd put in a good work for me. That got me in the door.

In the last 10 years we've had exactly zero kids complete an apprenticeship. Had about a half dozen start. They were all losers. The kid we have now will probably make it. His dad is an engineer I've worked with in the past. One of the few that holds tool makers in high esteem. He'll beat the kid if he messes up.

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Used to be the same where I work. Now, you have to bribe them to work for you.

 

[Creedmoor]

Something must be wrong if people aren't applying?

Drug testing? Attendance requirements? Negative work environment?


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Hot in the summer and cold in the winter.
What worthwhile employment doesn't have drug testing and good attendance in order to keep your job?
Some employeers dont even test for weed any longer.

Why have all the Indiana Distribution centers have Help Wanted signs on the sides of the buildings for years now?
Walmart picking rates can get a smart worker almost $32.00 an hour.

 

[Indyhd]

What education do your carpenders and laborers receive?
And what education do they have to keep current?

Now that you know what I do, what union are you in.
I have to ask because some on here seem to think that if you are not in the union you have no skills and that you will work unsafely.
I guess if you buy a union card all of a sudden you no longer do unsafe **** and your IQ level jumps 65 points.

All of our people go through a 30 hour OSHA which is more than most union contractors can say.
As far as training many are ex union and many are in their 40s with a lot of on the job previous experience.

 

[Creedmoor]

Is that one of the reasons many jobs went overseas?

I'm happy you got so much, but at the expense of others?

How do you export workers that install equipment, machinery build buildings?
How does one export say,
Union Ironworkers
Union Pipe fitters
Union Sprinkler fitters
Union Steam fitters
Union Glaziers
Union Elevator
And on and on.