Kirk, if you want to blame your errors and your student's errors on a specific "AK quirk" or "AK fine point" that, in reality, are not specific to the AK, but rather, potential issues that exist across all firearms, have at it, dude.
Whatever you do, never look back.
Why do you believe that "quirk of the AK" somehow makes it exclusive to the AK? Please explain this Gun Aspie trait so that I can address it in the future. If I had used (not exclusive to the AK) would this help prevent your future meltdowns?
"Quirk" means trait. Just because the AK has a quirk does not mean that other platforms do not have it too. Firearms are not zero sum.
It happens. It happens commonly with the AK which is what "quirk" means.
and you felt attacked..
Is is a lecture on firearms operation or the English language that you need? Please advise. I am standing by to help.
"Quirk" Freeman?
This quirk of the AK is a fine point, but a very important point. It can save a life so I share it so others can gain knowledge and lead to a safer, more educated gun culture which is the purpose of INGO.
You can keep repeating that, but repetition will not make it true. FTEs are not "common with the AK". As we know, the AK is considered on of the most reliable weapons on planet earth because FTEs are common with them, right?
And yet you have a video, which you have admitted watching, showing how AKs can FTE.
There are 60M AK-47s on this planet. Some percentage of them is going to screw up.
Learn about guns so you can address these safety concerns. Ignoring them or ignorantly arguing that they do not exist is a good way to get hurt.
I fail to see how 1) doing a press check first wouldn’t be drilled in anyones head and 2) how in the world is this even considered clearing a weapon, draw the durn charging handle back with authority, it will eject EVERY single time. AK doesn’t eject rounds? Then the ejector bought the farm, the thing protrudes nearly halfway into the case head, if it fails to eject, the ejector is pooched, new receiver, or new rail time. And the things eject just barely past the round leaving the chamber.
I would check any of my AKM, VEPR, Saiga, Galil, or my type 1; but I know they’re all the same way
Did Kirk get corrected and resort to playing the suffering safety martyr again?
Ohhhhhhh. Now, we are getting somewhere. I follow now. So, what you meant to say was that AKs are common, not that FTEs are common quirks of AKs, right? See, Kirk, words and how we use them are important. I am sure people of normal intellect, those with autism, and those with Asperger's can all appreciate this aspect of communication.
In all honesty, I am not sure if you are trying to cover up for some of the nonsense that you've said in this thread, or if you really just are bad at getting your points across with common words.
You are simply covering up for your being embarrassed that you had no idea that this was a potential safety problem.
I don't think anyone has denied that failures can occur. All rifles can fail.
It's a problem with any firearm, not just AKs.
So, are you claiming that I denied that rounds can fail to eject in an AK? OK. Show me where I said that...
You can keep repeating that, but repetition will not make it true. FTEs are not "common with the AK". As we know, the AK is considered one of the most reliable weapons on planet earth because FTEs are common with them, right?
Calling FTEs a "quirk" of the AK makes little to no sense because it is not a peculiar trait of an AK anymore than it is a peculiar trait of an AR, HK, or (enter firearm here). It is a common malfunction with all firearms.
Not obvious at all if you don't look back at the bolt. I know you have seen this in class. People do the gun store clear and do not use gravity, the sneaky snake round sticks to the bolt face.
You know how it is, people get scope locked on the breech and do not look to see the bolt. They then let go of the charging handle and reload the weapon. The weapon can then cook off or Jethro points it at something he should not and you get blood or property damage or both.
Is it rare? Yes. Can it happen? Yes. Can it happen with other platforms? Sure but more common with crappy ammo in AKs. How do we prevent it? First, be aware of it. Second, look back, and better yet, IMHO, feel around.
The problem is that I am telling people about safety and people do not want to hear about it as, 1. they already know everything, 2. they have never come across it thus it cannot happen.
It's not like I have not been here before.
A photo? Well, maybe, if I can find one. It's the weapon grabbing the round out of the chamber and not turning loose. There is lots of travel in the AK bolt, and pulled all the way back I have experienced people who miss this.
Rare, I agree, but it happens. Enough to warn others of.
People will look forward but not back and miss a live round, especially if that feld grau steel case ammo.
Charging handle is on the proper side, just like a springfield, garand, mauser, etc. I’ll take right side charging over that rear t-handle crap anyday.This is good to know. I've used an AK in only one class (carbine/pistol with Louis, maybe my 4th or 5th time through), so my experience with it limited at best. I have to admit that I do not rotate an AK so the ejection port is toward the ground when I rack the charging handle. I have to reach over the top with my left hand because I can't reach things very well going underneath like most people advocate. Stupid gun needs its charging handle on the left side where it belongs.
This is good to know. I've used an AK in only one class (carbine/pistol with Louis, maybe my 4th or 5th time through), so my experience with it limited at best. I have to admit that I do not rotate an AK so the ejection port is toward the ground when I rack the charging handle. I have to reach over the top with my left hand because I can't reach things very well going underneath like most people advocate. Stupid gun needs its charging handle on the left side where it belongs.
Charging handle is on the proper side, just like a springfield, garand, mauser, etc. I’ll take right side charging over that rear t-handle crap anyday.
I had it happen to me, we shot my type 56 AK along with other rifles that day and cleared all firearms when packing up at the farm. It was put in a vault with no magazine for a few years and when my son pulled it out to shoot on day he yanked back the bolt and a round flipped out on the shop floor. It was one of those things that makes you rethink how you are clearing a firearm.