.22LR Range Fun

[doddg]

SW 2206 (SS w/adjustable rear sights 422 variant, no optic)
2nd Kel-Tec CP33 (no optic, but red rear & front green fiber optics)

SW 2206 (Row 1 & 2) & Kel-Tec CP33 (Row 3 & 4).
21' both were 95%
30' both were 70%
Kel-Tec got four 5/5 in the 1.75" circles.
SW 2206 got three 5/5 in the 1.75" circles.


SW 2206 is a unique pistol in that the bottom of the slide is where the barrel is.
Early/Mid 1990s


Green & red fiber optics make this gun easy to shoot.
This is my 2nd one that I'm leaving with no optic.
Love having both to shoot with and w/o an optic.

 

[doddg]

SW 41 (1980s)
Federal AutoMatch 1200 FPS LRN
0/140 issues using this ammo.
When using CCI SV 1070 FPS, I have had stovepipes.

30' at 1.75" circles.
Had to fine tune scope a little.
Loved getting the 2 cloverleafs!


.75" blue squares on the back of a used target.
The last 2 rows I was dialing in the rear sights for the AutoMatch ammo.
Row 1 & 2 came after rows 3 & 4.

 

[doddg]

I will agree with over the last 10 years with auto match it's either one or the other. We have had better luck with the old boxes also.
After the last non existence rimfire debacle I started ordering two of the auto match 10 box flats a month as to never have that problem again. I've been spending some time with my Cooper 57 trying to find what it likes at 50 yds. I've run about 50 of each Federal Match HV, Auto Match, CCI standard, Aguila rifle so far.
Nothing better than an inch.
I read the other night that some are shooting Aguila Pistol Match in rifles and it's doing very well for them. I have two cases that I bought hoping our 41's would like it. It was not to be.
I will see this week with a few more rounds.
I bought a lead sled at an auction, it's been interested using it for testing.

I can't believe you are shooting pistols at 50 yds.
I would not even be able to see my red 1.75" circles at 50 yds.
I can't even see them at 25 yds.

 

[doddg]

Have you ever tried Federal Auto Match in your 41, it's what we shoot out of ours a huge percentage of the practice time.

I used the Federal Auto Match this week out of my SW 41 (1980s) and had no issue in 140-ish rds.
I was elated.
That is twice that has happened now, but don't remember what the other HV brand was I tried with also no issue.
Can't remember if I've run HV through my other 41 (2021) but I intend to do so using the Fed Auto Match next time I take it out.

 

[DadSmith]

I can't believe you are shooting pistols at 50 yds.
I would not even be able to see my red 1.75" circles at 50 yds.
I can't even see them at 25 yds.

50yds I definitely need a scope to see that small of a dot. I can still see a 12"x12" target

 

[Hookeye]

Increase your target size so the dot fits within.
Don't need to see the center or the X, just touch it off when the dot has equal black all around

 

[DadSmith]

Increase your target size so the dot fits within.
Don't need to see the center or the X, just touch it off when the dot has equal black all around

Most handgun front sights cover a very large area at 50yds, so do MRDS depending on dot size.
Maybe go with a 4" target circle at 50yds per your suggestion that should fix seeing the target circle with a handgun front sight or MRDS.
A 1.75 or 2" circle just isn't big at that range with iron or MRDS imo. Great suggestion.

 

[700 LTR 223]

Most handgun front sights cover a very large area at 50yds, so do MRDS depending on dot size.
Maybe go with a 4" target circle at 50yds per your suggestion that should fix seeing the target circle with a handgun front sight or MRDS.
A 1.75 or 2" circle just isn't big at that range with iron or MRDS imo. Great suggestion.

The blackened rings of a NRA 50 yard small bore rifle target is just under 4" at around 3 3/4". A 4" circle at 50 yards would be fairly difficult for most shooters with open sight handgun. Even with a red dot from a standing position.

I use a NRA bullseye target for 50 yard handgun shooting with an 8" black circle containing the 8 , 9 , 10 and X rings and unlike the bullseye shooters I cheat and use two hands most of the time! Used to be able to get a nice sight picture with open sights but these days my target handguns have red dots.

 

[DadSmith]

The blackened rings of a NRA 50 yard small bore rifle target is just under 4" at around 3 3/4". A 4" circle at 50 yards would be fairly difficult for most shooters with open sight handgun. Even with a red dot from a standing position.

I use a NRA bullseye target for 50 yard handgun shooting with an 8" black circle containing the 8 , 9 , 10 and X rings and unlike the bullseye shooters I cheat and use two hands most of the time! Used to be able to get a nice sight picture with open sights but these days my target handguns have red dots.

Good to know. I know 2" is out even with a MRDS. Tried it already. Definitely out with my iron sights on my 44mag.

 

[Born2vette]

Good to know. I know 2" is out even with a MRDS. Tried it already. Definitely out with my iron sights on my 44mag.

This is a B8 at 25 yds, 2 moa red dot from a bench using a bag with my P10C. Did not try 50 but will some time soon.

 

[DadSmith]

This is a B8 at 25 yds, 2 moa red dot from a bench using a bag with my P10C. Did not try 50 but will some time soon.

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Now if they came in blaze orange

 

[Born2vette]

Now if they came in blaze orange

These are pretty easy to see at 25 yds

Amazon.com

Have not tried these but look good as well

Amazon.com

 

[DadSmith]

These are pretty easy to see at 25 yds

Amazon.com

Have not tried these but look good as well

Amazon.com

Need to invest in those. I've got a lifetime supply of paper targets. But my eyes aren't as good as they used to be. So I needs to just accept that and buy those types of targets.

 

[doddg]

These are pretty easy to see at 25 yds

Amazon.com

Have not tried these but look good as well

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Got to get me some of those!

 

[doddg]

I have a fondness for the Browning Buck Mark.
It has proven itself over time and become a favorite brand.

Last year I ended up with 4 or 5 Buck Marks, and trimmed it down to 2, but picked up another one this weekend.

Browning Buck Mark Contour URX Pistol 22LR, 5.5", Single Action, Aluminum, Black Ultragrip RX, Manual, Pro-Target , Matte Black, only 1 mag, cardbox with a Browning soft case, extra beautiful grip,
Online, these models cost $550-$600 with additional taxes, FFL fees and shipping.

I intend to leave this Buck Mark w/o an optic since my other 2 Buck Marks have an optic on them, but I have a red dot to put on later.

I didn't bother to tighten up the groups by resting the barrel on a rest, only my hands.
Rows 1-3 were at 21' & row 4 at 30'.
Using a common box ammo today, I put 160 rounds through it.
CCI Blazer 36 grain, 1235 FPS, SLN.
5 rds at each 1.75" circle.


Love the ancillary grips that came with it.

 

[bgcatty]

I haven’t been to the range in over two weeks. You guys are killing me having way too much fun out there!
I guess I gotta catch up!

 

[NHT3]

I have a fondness for the Browning Buck Mark.
It has proven itself over time and become a favorite brand.

Last year I ended up with 4 or 5 Buck Marks, and trimmed it down to 2, but picked up another one this weekend.

Browning Buck Mark Contour URX Pistol 22LR, 5.5", Single Action, Aluminum, Black Ultragrip RX, Manual, Pro-Target , Matte Black, only 1 mag, cardbox with a Browning soft case, extra beautiful grip,
Online, these models cost $550-$600 with additional taxes, FFL fees and shipping.

I intend to leave this Buck Mark w/o an optic since my other 2 Buck Marks have an optic on them, but I have a red dot to put on later.

I didn't bother to tighten up the groups by resting the barrel on a rest, only my hands.
Rows 1-3 were at 21' & row 4 at 30'.
Using a common box ammo today, I put 160 rounds through it.
CCI Blazer 36 grain, 1235 FPS, SLN.
5 rds at each 1.75" circle.
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Love the ancillary grips that came with it.
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I'm certainly not an accuracy expert and never shoot from a rest but it's my understanding testing for accuracy with a barrel on a rest is a nono. Maybe with a 22 that has a very stiff barrel it doesn't matter possibly someone with more knowledge that I will chime in.

 

[doddg]

I'm certainly not an accuracy expert and never shoot from a rest but it's my understanding testing for accuracy with a barrel on a rest is a nono. Maybe with a 22 that has a very stiff barrel it doesn't matter possibly someone with more knowledge that I will chime in.

I learned there is another level of tighter groups when I not only put my hands on a rest, but also the barrel on a rest.
I started doing it with my Ruger Charger 10" barrels, then my 10" Buck Mark, then the
8" Buck Mark.
I tried it with my 5.5 & 6" & discovered with my old hands, it helped, haha!
Can't remember if I've tried with any 4" barrels, haha!
To your point, perhaps, it does change the POI.

 

[doddg]

I haven’t been to the range in over two weeks. You guys are killing me having way too much fun out there!
I guess I got to catch up!

I hadn't been to the range in over 2 weeks!!!
I can't remember last time that happened, probably a surgery.
Other family medical issues has distracted me lately from hobby time.
Not even myself or the wife, but my 39 yr old son.
You know your getting old when your grown kids are having to go to the ER.

 

[bgcatty]

I hadn't been to the range in over 2 weeks!!!
I can't remember last time that happened, probably a surgery.
Other family medical issues has distracted me lately from hobby time.
Not even myself or the wife, but my 39 yr old son.
You know your getting old when your grown kids are having to go to the ER.

Sorry to hear about your son’s medical issues and hope all turns out ok! I, too, have had multiple low back surgeries over the past few years that have prevented me from going to the range for extended periods of time. It’s terrible.
This aging process is not for the light hearted.
Nevertheless, Carpe Diem !