100% PRO GUN for US SENATE REBECCA SINK-BURIS ANSWERS GOA QUESTIONNAIRE

[photoshooter]

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I disagree with your analysis that good, liberty loving candidates can't make it. Look at Sharon Angle (sp?) in Nevada. She was definitely not the party choice. The tea party movement is starting to turn the tide of establish candidate dominance. The problem with the IN GOP Senate primary is that the votes were split between too many candidates. In the end if Marlin Stutzman were to have the support of the other 3, he would have defeated Coats handily. In the end, the voters choose who advances.

These two examples (Coats in IN, and Angle in NV) are opposite ends of the spectrum.

You're right about IN having too many candidates. With three relative unknowns (Bates, Behney and Stutzman) that could have been anyone's race. Add in a former congressman and a former Senator/Ambassador and the momentum shifts heavily toward the establishment.

Angle is a different case.

Instead of four candidates each trying to cast themselves as the maverick TEA Party vote (Behney as a TEA organizer, Stutzman as a 9.11 patriot, Hostettler as a maverick former congressman, and Bates) Vs one establishment guy - Angle was able to be the voice of the TEA party vs. Two fairly established Republican Names: Sue Lowden and Danny T.

Angle had something that no one in the Indiana race had: Endorsement from a national TEA Party group (TEA Party Express) AT a Nation event (Tax day rally in DC).

Instead here in Indiana - we had dueling endorsements. Ron Paul for Hostettler, DeMint and Huck for Stutzman, and Bill Bennet and Mike Pence for Coats.

The Ron Paul endorsement was the closest thing to a TEA Party national endorsement -but Dr. Paul's image still suffers from the beating enforced by the national GOP machine that don't want to go down the road he wants to lead them on. Face it. Ron Paul is still regarded by the rank and file average GOP voter as a looney.

So the establishment GOP didn't have a large reason to vote for John. They could pick and choose between Dingy Dan or upstart (but paying his political party dues) Stutzman.

Plus, Angle had another huge advantage: Harry Reid wants to run against her. Reid had his trash team following Lowden, and released her gaffs in speeches including one where Lowden said we should start bartering for Health Care. That got played heavy in the NV media.

Reid isn't stupid. He helped set the table up so the least experienced and least establishment candidate to prevail.

We didn't have that here... to a large extent. The dems did attack Coats early on - but I'm still leaning toward them liking the choice of Coats. His past record on 2A issues, his lobbying, and a host of other issues gives them fodder for attack ads, more-so than the others. That helps offset any money he has.

 

[mrjarrell]

You don't have to have money to get the word out. There is the internet. Just as Rebecca has done here and many other ways. I do talk to people about the Libertarians. I've had many discussions about them with people because at the time I was still trying to make up my own mind about them. But seriously, I don't ever hear or read about the Libertarians anywhere except on here and the various Tea Party Forums. Apparently word isn't getting around very well.

Then you haven't been paying much attention, SE. During the course of the year the Indy Star mentions Libertarians quite a few times, (not enough INMO) and they frequently appear on the radio in Indy on AM1430 WXNT with Abdul. They also appear in numerous local papers throughout the state. You need to spread your info net a little wider than INGO.

 

[Joe Williams]

In typical political speak; thanks for the question. But seriously, our home is well armed, currently I am carrying a small Ruger revolver. As we live a mile from neighbors and are visible from the road, I like to carry it in a "belly band" over clothing in the summer while I work outside as well as in the car. Our home seems to be a way station for anyone who is lost, deer hunters in the fall, mushroom hunters in the spring, delivery drivers anytime. And then there are those who get stuck while attempting to drive through the creek as it crosses our road. Even with a large dog to greet visitors, I feel safer having a firearm at hand.

At this point, carrying a Ruger is as good a reason to vote for someone as not. I may never again vote Dem. As a conservative, Republicans have rejected me. Libertarians are almost as radically left as Dems, save for those who are outright anarchists.

I, frankly, no longer see our freedom and Constitution being preserved at the ballot box. Our government has tossed aside the document, and is ruling (not governing) outside the law.

 

[SavageEagle]

Then you haven't been paying much attention, SE. During the course of the year the Indy Star mentions Libertarians quite a few times, (not enough INMO) and they frequently appear on the radio in Indy on AM1430 WXNT with Abdul. They also appear in numerous local papers throughout the state. You need to spread your info net a little wider than INGO.

My "info net" is MUCH larger than INGO. But you must not realize that most people don't listen to AM radio and very rarely read the Indy Star. They get their news on the net and TV. I almost never see a Libertarian on TV debating with an R or D. I have to go to sites like this, the Tea Party forums/meetup/etc, blogs, facebook, and very non-mainstream websites to hear Libertarians debate anything. Sometimes you get lucky and see one on Fox News, but only once in a neon green moon do you see them on CNN or MSNBC.

Sure, I hear them on WIBC and... 95.9FM. But that's about it. Again, realize that liberals refuse to tune in these two stations as well. It doesn't reach a wide enough net of people.

Don't you think that if Libertarians' messages were so great that they'd be all over the media (and non-media) and the internet and people listening to them???

I'm like Duncan. I vote on Merit, not what letter follows their name. So if they're a great candidate, get in front of a camera every chance you get. Lay your plans out. Show people its possible. And then follow through. People will take notice.

 

[tnek]

Rebecca since your reading all of these will you post your position on illegal immigration and the border??

 

[SirRealism]

Don't you think that if Libertarians' messages were so great that they'd be all over the media (and non-media) and the internet and people listening to them???

If the value of the message is measured by its saturation of the major media... then we're definitely screwed. I disagree that this is the measure of good ideas.

 

[Duncan]

SavageEagle;1181300]My "info net" is MUCH larger than INGO. But you must not realize that most people don't listen to AM radio and very rarely read the Indy Star. They get their news on the net and TV. I almost never see a Libertarian on TV debating with an R or D. I have to go to sites like this, the Tea Party forums/meetup/etc, blogs, facebook, and very non-mainstream websites to hear Libertarians debate anything. Sometimes you get lucky and see one on Fox News, but only once in a neon green moon do you see them on CNN or MSNBC.

Sure, I hear them on WIBC and... 95.9FM. But that's about it. Again, realize that liberals refuse to tune in these two stations as well. It doesn't reach a wide enough net of people.

I believe for the vast part - 90% that socialists , that's liberal to some peoples way of thinking , are doomed , cooked a wright off .
They are so conditioned and some are highly intelligent , not smart ... but with a high IQ and well read .. that there are only two things that will cure them of their mind set .
1. Death ... a bullet or natural .
They are so conditioned and lacking of common sense that they are beyond help .
2. Extreme Pain .
A situation so painful that the only option is to do the right thing .
The stimulus for this may very well be the death of a loved one .

Thomas Sowell is a great exception to this ...

They are a follow the herd mentally and no amount of talking or facts current or historical will help them over their mental block illness .

Don't you think that if Libertarians' messages were so great that they'd be all over the media (and non-media) and the internet and people listening to them???

I think the message of Freedom . Less Government and Less Taxes is a good message that appeals to the vast majority . At face value . But then when it come time for " your ox to be gored " HOLD ON BUDDY that is a great program !! Leave it alone .

I would point to Ron Paul and his bid for President .
I watched the main line news more during that time frame .
I truly believe that the media was shutting him up by ignoring him by giving him just enough face time to " appear " fair .
They did not want him to say what many Americans were thinking ... as with the Tea Party movement of today .
The freedom message is one that people want ... but the media does not .

I'm like Duncan. I vote on Merit, not what letter follows their name. So if they're a great candidate, get in front of a camera every chance you get. Lay your plans out. Show people its possible. And then follow through. People will take notice.

I would like for people to think of me as being honest ... Some in the past I believe think that I have a holier than thou attitude .

I try real hard to stay on principal ... I failed in the last presidential election .
I voted for Bob Barr the Libertarian candidate .

I was torn on who to cast a ballot for and I did for Bar in part just to help with the number count for the Libertarian's and the X State ChairMan for the libertarian party , that I have high respect for , was much in favor and believed him to be a " reformed Republican "

I was wrong . I should have cast may ballot for Alan Keys ... He was a much more well grounded Constitutional contender .

I'm like Duncan. I vote on Merit

Thank you for the complement

Thanks
Duncan

 

[Faceman675]

I am out in Cali and don't know that much about Indy politics but I am pretty sure that come November you'll elect a R or a D to the senate. I wish we had the luxury of voting our conscious but this election is too important. I don't like Lugar, I think he is a RIHNO, but if it comes down to Lugar or a D please hold your nose and vote for the party that at least gives lip service to gun rights, not the one that tries to restrict gun rights at every chance. Voting for an Independent Libertarian will only serve to split the conservative vote and will benefit the Dem.

 

[SavageEagle]

If the value of the message is measured by its saturation of the major media... then we're definitely screwed. I disagree that this is the measure of good ideas.

I"m not valuing or weighing a message by the face time it gets. This doesn't even come into play with how I weigh a message. What I'm saying is that if you want people to HEAR the message, you have to get it out there for EVERYONE to see and hear. It doesn't matter if the news media's opinion of the message is good or bad. As long as they can shut the #($& up long enough to let the plan/message be communicated as a whole, people can make up their own minds as to whether or not they agree with the message/plan.

How can they do that if they don't see or hear it?

I think the message of Freedom . Less Government and Less Taxes is a good message that appeals to the vast majority . At face value . But then when it come time for " your ox to be gored " HOLD ON BUDDY that is a great program !! Leave it alone .

That's exactly the same thing that made me lose faith in the Tea Party. They screamed to the heavens "Vote em ALL out!". Then election time comes and they kept saying, "well, this guy has done good things and supports my agenda" and boom, career politicians kept their seats.

Just like with the welfare programs. I say drop them all. Let the private sector handle "The Helping Hand". Government has no authority to do so.

 

[downzero]

I wont support her as she believes in open borders. I wish I could and if she will support closing the border I will vote for her.

Then no libertarian candidate is for you. We believe in free market capitalism, not protectionist mercantilism. Maybe the federalist party from the year 1800 will be happy to have you.

Until then, the rest of us live in the year 2010 where globalization is inevitable and virtuous.

 

[IndyMonkey]

Then no libertarian candidate is for you. We believe in free market capitalism, not protectionist mercantilism. Maybe the federalist party from the year 1800 will be happy to have you.

Until then, the rest of us live in the year 2010 where globalization is inevitable and virtuous.

So we should open up to free trade with everyone in the world?

 

[Joe Williams]

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Until then, the rest of us live in the year 2010 where globalization is inevitable and virtuous.

Like I said earlier, the Libertarians have been infiltrated by leftists and anarchists. Many of whom wish to see US sovereignty watered down.

Nobody who truly wishes to see the US regain it's stronghold as free, sovereign nation will find satisfaction in from the Libertarians. It's refreshing, though sadly rare, to see one admit it.

 

[SavageEagle]

So we should open up to free trade with everyone in the world?

I have no problem with that. Let the markets dictate the prices, not government. But as with teknek, her, and other libertarians' position on the border issue is a deal breaker with me. Free Trade, sure. Free to roam in and out of this Country, nah. It's bad enough we have terrorists in this Country illegally already.

 

[SirRealism]

I"m not valuing or weighing a message by the face time it gets. This doesn't even come into play with how I weigh a message. What I'm saying is that if you want people to HEAR the message, you have to get it out there for EVERYONE to see and hear. It doesn't matter if the news media's opinion of the message is good or bad. As long as they can shut the #($& up long enough to let the plan/message be communicated as a whole, people can make up their own minds as to whether or not they agree with the message/plan.

Ah, that I understand. Historically, libertarians seem to be able to find good, intelligent people to run... they do have issues in communicating their message, though.

That's exactly the same thing that made me lose faith in the Tea Party. They screamed to the heavens "Vote em ALL out!". Then election time comes and they kept saying, "well, this guy has done good things and supports my agenda" and boom, career politicians kept their seats.

I guess I don't really see it the same way. For example, all of the tea party folks I know supported and voted for for one of the many candidates running against Coats in the primary. Had one or two of those candidates dropped out to join forces with another very qualified small-gov candidate, we'd be in a much different position now. If there is blame to be assigned, I lay it more at the feet of the candidates. But that's a story for another thread.

 

[photoshooter]

The libertarian party has to fight not only the media to gather support and begin to win elections, but also the established Federalist/Republican and Progressive/Democrat party machines.

The two party system doesn't want a third party, unless they control that new party.

Big govt party machines ... meet the individual rights crowd who won't be controlled: the Libertarian party. They just want to be "let alone" to do their own thing.

 

[SirRealism]

So is the Libertarian party dead set against securing the border? If so, I guess that might just be one issue that relegates them to third place. Oh well, bronze is nice.

 

[dhdoug]

maybe i missed it but how does protecting our borders mean that we cant, dont or wont participate in the "global free market"? open borders...call it what you want but sounds like the ......nope. caught myself getting ready to be mean. i'll stick with my first comment. whew,that was close.

 

[SirRealism]

The libertarian party has to fight not only the media to gather support and begin to win elections, but also the established Federalist/Republican and Progressive/Democrat party machines.

The two party system doesn't want a third party, unless they control that new party.

Big govt party machines ... meet the individual rights crowd who won't be controlled: the Libertarian party. They just want to be "let alone" to do their own thing.

But they also have to fight their own communications "difficulties". (I'm speaking in generalities... not talking specific about people.) If the Republicans are a notch or two below the Dems regarding marketing (and that's being kind), then Libertarians are a notch below that.

 

[SirRealism]

maybe i missed it but how does protecting our borders mean that we cant, dont or wont participate in the "global free market"? open borders...call it what you want but sounds like the ......nope. caught myself getting ready to be mean. i'll stick with my first comment. whew,that was close.

Evidently, the only candidate you'd be happy with is John Adams. Perhaps you should stay home.

 

[dhdoug]

what the he**? didnt i just ask something(rhetorical) from the same side of the fence as you? i was on board with what you were saying. perhaps you should look again