Will you take the Covid Vaccine?

[melensdad]

Fauci and the CDC both being repetitively caught telling bald-faced lies is not a matter of opinion.

True

 

[nonobaddog]

I'm pretty surprised that anyone actually believes it works in anything other than early stage Covid and low dose treatment scenarios but please provide some evidence to prove me wrong.

Regardless of whether it works or not - the statement you made was that it seems more toxic than COVID which has killed a half a million people. That is a lie which started in the media as soon as Trump mentioned it. HCQ has been used by people for well over 50 years and it hasn't killed nearly that many.

 

[melensdad]

Regardless of whether it works or not - the statement you made was that it seems more toxic than COVID which has killed a half a million people. That is a lie which started in the media as soon as Trump mentioned it. HCQ has been used by people for well over 50 years and it hasn't killed nearly that many.

Not a lie. Your math skills are seriously lacking. You are not making accurate comparisons.

 

[Hawkeye]

Fauci and the CDC both being repetitively caught telling bald-faced lies is not a matter of opinion.

YOu really have some strong hang-ups.

 

[IndyDave1776]

YOu really have some strong hang-ups.

That doesn't even make sense.

 

[Hawkeye]

That doesn't even make sense.

Sort of like some of your non-vaccing posts. I guess we are equal in that.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Sort of like some of your non-vaccing posts. I guess we are equal in that.

If you feel secure with injecting chemicals you consider safe based on the word of proven liars, do so with my blessing.

 

[Hawkeye]

If you feel secure with injecting chemicals you consider safe based on the word of proven liars, do so with my blessing.

I've neither asked for your blessing nor your mischaracterization of the vaccine.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I've neither asked for your blessing nor your mischaracterization of the vaccine.

Explain this mischaracterization.

 

[nonobaddog]

Not a lie. Your math skills are seriously lacking. You are not making accurate comparisons.

My math skills are pretty good. If you want to make personal attacks you probably want to start somewhere else.

 

[melensdad]

My math skills are pretty good. If you want to make personal attacks you probably want to start somewhere else.

No personal attack was made. Your are making invalid comparisons.

 

[nonobaddog]

• HCQ seems to be more toxic than Covid

You made the comparison first. Do you care to say why you believe this statement?

 

[Hawkeye]

Explain this mischaracterization.

Read your post. It's very plain. You know pretty precisely what you are doing by calling the vaccine "chemicals". The food you eat, beverages you drink and air you breath could also be called "chemicals". It's a rather asinine position to take. If you don't want to take the vaccine, I'm fine with that. Just like you should be fine with anyone else's decision to take it. And not troot out childish misinformation in an attempt to justify your decision.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Read your post. It's very plain. You know pretty precisely what you are doing by calling the vaccine "chemicals". The food you eat, beverages you drink and air you breath could also be called "chemicals". It's a rather asinine position to take. If you don't want to take the vaccine, I'm fine with that. Just like you should be fine with anyone else's decision to take it. And not troot out childish misinformation in an attempt to justify your decision.

This is the stupidest bunch of crap I have heard all day.

Substances we have consumed for decades if not centuries do not compare with a new and relatively untested vaccine/treatment which is less than a year old.

Contrary to your apparent belief, I do not feel any need to justify my decisions to you or anyone else.

If you want to gamble with this, I really don't care. That said, I do not need some fool disparaging my disinclination to gamble my health.

 

[Ingomike]

This is the stupidest bunch of crap I have heard all day.

Substances we have consumed for decades if not centuries do not compare with a new and relatively untested vaccine/treatment which is less than a year old.

Contrary to your apparent belief, I do not feel any need to justify my decisions to you or anyone else.

If you want to gamble with this, I really don't care. That said, I do not need some fool disparaging my disinclination to gamble my health.

More trolling from those cheerleading for the vaccine. If this was not so personal, so important to them, they would not care what anyone says, but alas they care deeply and feel they must personally attack any other information or questioning.

I think most would not want to know if there are bad effects from the vaccine, they have taken it and are now on that team,

 

[nonobaddog]

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine contains:

Vaccine -
30 mcg of a nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2

Lipids -
0.43 mg (4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate),
0.05 mg 2[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide,
0.09 mg 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine,
and 0.2 mg cholesterol

The rest is basically phosphate buffered physiological saline
0.01 mg potassium chloride,
0.01 mg monobasic potassium phosphate,
0.36 mg sodium chloride,
0.07 mg dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and
6 mg sucrose.

The diluent (0.9% Sodium Chloride Injection, USP) contributes an additional 2.16 mg sodium chloride per dose.

 

[jamil]

HCQ seems to be more toxic than Covid, but can be used in some early treatments at low doses. Not really proven to be very effective in most cases, and increases mortality if used during advanced stages of Covid.

I'm pretty surprised that anyone actually believes it works in anything other than early stage Covid and low dose treatment scenarios but please provide some evidence to prove me wrong.

Not a lie. Your math skills are seriously lacking. You are not making accurate comparisons.

Wait. This is ********. The studies I've seen on HCQ do not show that HCQ seems to be more toxic than covid. You can say the studies don't prove that HCQ is particularly effective against covid. You can even say it increases mortality. But that it's MORE toxic than covid?

From some of the studies I've read, probably one of the most dangerous things with HCQ is that it can cause some arrhythmias that can be quite dangerous when coupled with covid. And there are some other specific dangers of HCQ that can complicate later stage covid especially in vulnerable people. I would not take it for covid treatment.

But none of that is anywhere near supportive of your statement that HCQ seems to be more toxic than covid. You're welcome to walk that one back. I mean, if you want anyone to take you seriously.

 

[jamil]

YOu really have some strong hang-ups.

He's right though. Fauci and the CDC have been caught in lies. He claimed in Senate testimony, under questioning by Rand Paul, that his org did not fund gain of function research either directly or indirectly, but then the FOIA'd emails show that they did, and that he was concerned that covid may have leaked from that particular research.

I mean. He's basically in the very spot portrayed by Randy from South Park, except as far as we know, the virus did not spread to humans from Fauci ****ing a bat (or later it was revealed that it was actually spread by Randy ****ing a pangolin.)

 

[BigRed]

I am approaching day 450 with no mask and no shot.

Still here.

 

[HoughMade]

Novavax, which I have a personal interest in, should be releasing its phase III North American trial results soon.

So far, in a UK study, it is on top in efficacy at 96.4%.

One interesting thing this article deals with is that it may be a less problematic vaccine for boosters. Some other types of vaccines either lose potency with additional doses or side effects, though usually mild, may increase with more doses. Novavax, it is claimed, does not have these issues.

https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4433426-and-the-booster-covid-vaccine-winner-is-novavax

Novavax has experienced issues with supply chain and manufacturing partnerships which has caused it to take longer to bring its product to market, but sounds like they are making progress.