SavageEagle
Grandmaster
- Apr 27, 2008
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Guys... guys....
If "getting tough" on illegal immigration means sacrificing the 4th Amendment, you can all COUNT ME OUT.
Right now the Government does not have the power or the right to just go around "carding" people, or demanding to see their "papers." There is a very good reason the Constitution prohibits that. Please realize and understand that.
You might think you are taking the gloves off, and unafraid to offend people, but what you are really doing is eroding the rights of all of us, forever. I'll be on the opposing side to that bright idea.
A lot of us get upset when people get carded for displaying their sidearm! How pissed will you be when you are being carded for NOTHING but standing on the sidewalk?? "National ID please!"
You want to be constructive, realize this. These people are merely pawns. They are the result of Government policies that have enticed them - practically begged them - to come to this country. The people who made these policies are those that you should direct your comments to.
These are the solutions: Oppose Amnesty. Get rid of the handouts. Enforce the laws that are already in place on employers who illegally hire undocumented workers. Oppose a National ID card. Defend the Constitution!!
I wouldn't be that upset if the law was changed such that in order for a child born here to be a citizen, at least one parent must already be a citizen. Gets rid of some of the enticement to rush over the border when the mother's water breaks and have the baby in a U.S. hospital.
But seriously, knock it off with the "carding." You guys scare me sometimes. You have more to fear from the Government than you do from these muchachos.
So the police have no right to see your ID when you're pulled over or questioned as a suspect? Read the bill. They have to be detained for a crime before they can just ask for their papers/ID. That's the problem, people aren't reading the bill. They hear "Papers please" and go nuts.
Want a real solution? Close the border. Want in? Better have a damn good reason. Anyone caught illegally crossing the border, be warned. Use of deadly force has been authorized. Then, sort out the mess we have here now. No Amnesty. Suspected illegals and proven illegals checked, then deported. Come back, get shot. Don't allow criminals from other countries in ours period. Want to come to this Country? Prove you're coming to be a CITIZEN and have a job waiting. Can't prove both? Come back when you can.
Once the mess is sorted out, reopen the borders with tight restrictions.
Not the best choice, but the only choice we're going to have if they don't figure out something better.