Who wants a Biden vaccine passport?

[DadSmith]

So I'm politically wrong for getting a vaccine and wanting an easy way to board a plane for Europe, and I'm theologically wrong?

Ugh.

Sounds pharisaical to me.

No you have freedom of choice. I'll stay in the good Ole US of A we pretty much have about everything right here except for jungles.

As a history buff there were several places I'd like to have visited but now getting older and I rather stay in my county. It's my choice.

I have nothing against proven vaccines, I got the anthrax vaccine and it messed me up bad. They label it as Gulf War Syndrome they gave us bad untested vaccine. I'm against Covid-19 vaccines for the same reason. My symptoms didn't hit until around 5 or so years later that I recall, and they gradually got worse I was in really bad shape around 8 years after.
I didn't have a choice about that vaccine but now I do.
Once it's proven I'll probably take it like I do the flu or tetanus and at some point the shingles vaccine.
People have no clue what is going to happen to them in say 5-10 years after taking this unproven vaccine.
If 250,000 of us developed Gulf War Syndrome from that crap anthrax vaccine, and if this Covid-19 vaccines do something similar, and just a quarter or those who took it have problems you will have a real pandemic. That's my concern for people taking them.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I don’t give a

I don’t give a damn what your approach is. It is asinine to try and coerce people who have already had the disease to take an unsafe vaccine. Your arrogance is astonishing. You say people who oppose this BS don’t travel internationally? Why is that ? do you assume I can’t afford it? Or am I just an ignorant backwards Hoosier? When you make broad statements as you did in your post above it is not helpful. Is it your assertion that I did not deliberate long and hard to get to my opinion ? Do you think others incapable of making decisions for themselves. SAD

Set phasers for delusional.

1. No one is coercing people to take the Covid-19 vaccines.

2. I am not being arrogant simply pointing out what has long been the standard to travel internationally.

3. If you travel internationally then you are aware that some countries have proof requirements for vaccinations as well as potential blood tests.

4. You MAY be ignorant but ignorant does not mean stupid or backwards. By educating you on international requirements I am freeing you and making you a better informed person.

5. I made a statement that was true and correct. International travel requires proof of vaccinations. If this angers you, do not travel internationally.

6. I do not care what you decide on the vaccine. I believe some people will let others be beta testers and then after a passage of time without side effects they too will receive it. Human nature and all. After a period of time this will be a non-factor as well "return to normal".

Because of the putrid politicalization of this virus, people are sensitive to butthurt. I am sorry you are butthurt over me correctly stating a fact. You are strong and will bounce back.

 

[HoughMade]

Because of the putrid politicalization of this virus, people are sensitive to butthurt.

Tru dat.

That when we discuss a disease we are expected to choose up sides on vaccines, treatments, masks, etc., etc., etc. based upon political affiliation is whackadoodle.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Tru dat.

That when we discuss a disease we are expected to choose up sides on vaccines, treatments, masks, etc., etc., etc. based upon political affiliation is whackadoodle.

Only on INGO am I both a Nazi and a Communists depending on my degree of knowledge of the germ theory of disease.

Perhaps I would do better to point out that the unvaccinated are giving asylum to the virus or like allowing voting without photo ID? Or, that vaccines are WALLS to the virus?

 

[JettaKnight]

You can get a vaccine every three days from now until the second coming for all I care, just don't expect me to join you.

Did you ever consider the scriptural implications of comparing people with sheep? I believe that if you did you wouldn't have raised the issue.

I have, and I still have an issue. For starters it's just plain insulting.

 

[HoughMade]

I have, and I still have an issue. For starters it's just plain insulting.

Perhaps those who claim not to be sheep should consider the scriptural implications.

 

[DadSmith]

Only on INGO am I both a Nazi and a Communists depending on my degree of knowledge of the germ theory of disease.

Perhaps I would do better to point out that the unvaccinated are giving asylum to the virus or like allowing voting without photo ID? Or, that vaccines are WALLS to the virus?

Actually both Nazi Germany and the USSR were both Marxist to some degree. Nazi Actually stands for National Socialist German Workers’ Party

 

[IndyDave1776]

I have, and I still have an issue. For starters it's just plain insulting.

Ok, so you are insulted the God compares humanity with some of the stupidest creatures on earth?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Actually both Nazi Germany and the USSR were both Marxist to some degree. Nazi Actually stands for National Socialist German Workers’ Party

Marxist? Well, if applying the European schools of history (economics is the primary driver of history), arguably yes.

However, they were bitter ideological enemies in the Weimar Republic up to 1945.

 

[JettaKnight]

No you have freedom of choice. I'll stay in the good Ole US of A we pretty much have about everything right here except for jungles.

As a history buff there were several places I'd like to have visited but now getting older and I rather stay in my county. It's my choice.

I have nothing against proven vaccines, I got the anthrax vaccine and it messed me up bad. They label it as Gulf War Syndrome they gave us bad untested vaccine. I'm against Covid-19 vaccines for the same reason. My symptoms didn't hit until around 5 or so years later that I recall, and they gradually got worse I was in really bad shape around 8 years after.
I didn't have a choice about that vaccine but now I do.
Once it's proven I'll probably take it like I do the flu or tetanus and at some point the shingles vaccine.
People have no clue what is going to happen to them in say 5-10 years after taking this unproven vaccine.
If 250,000 of us developed Gulf War Syndrome from that crap anthrax vaccine, and if this Covid-19 vaccines do something similar, and just a quarter or those who took it have problems you will have a real pandemic. That's my concern for people taking them.

See this is where our individual choices and opinions are influenced by life's experiences. I don't have a past event to tell me, " Stop! Remember what happened last time?"

Neither of us are sheep, or stupid, we just have different inputs in our decision making process. We're just trying to make the right choice with the data we have available.

 

[JettaKnight]

Ok, so you are insulted the God compares humanity with some of the stupidest creatures on earth?

It's insulting that you are using it in a derogatory manner.

Does the Shepard go after they one lost sheep or does he call it stupid and leave it to its own fate?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Perhaps those who claim not to be sheep should consider the scriptural implications.

Relative to God this is a valid point. In the context of temporal politics, I am NOT going to follow someone, anyone, because he decides to stand in front of the group demanding others follow him.

 

[IndyDave1776]

You set yourself up for that one. Ambiguity opens the door for all kinds of fun!

 

[DadSmith]

Marxist? Well, if applying the European schools of history (economics is the primary driver of history), arguably yes.

However, they were bitter ideological enemies in the Weimar Republic up to 1945.

So are were the USSR and China. Both Marxist yet enemies. Sino Soviet split as they call it in history.

 

[JettaKnight]

Actually both Nazi Germany and the USSR were both Marxist to some degree. Nazi Actually stands for National Socialist German Workers’ Party

I move that Kirk be labeled a Peronista.

 

[maxipum]

Only on INGO am I both a Nazi and a Communists depending on my degree of knowledge of the germ theory of disease.

Perhaps I would do better to point out that the unvaccinated are giving asylum to the virus or like allowing voting without photo ID? Or, that vaccines are WALLS to the virus?

What about those who have had the disease? I have the antibodies I don’t need some witches brew injection.

 

[phylodog]

Perhaps I would do better to point out that the unvaccinated are giving asylum to the virus or like allowing voting without photo ID? Or, that vaccines are WALLS to the virus?

So the vaccine kills the virus on contact and vaccinated people are incapable of transmitting the virus?

This is the first I’ve seen anyone attempt to lay blame for the virus at my feet for not getting the vaccine. I’m confident it won’t be the last, I expect every possible avenue to be exhausted before it’s all said and done. The really entertaining stuff won’t come until the end though, stuff Iike “every time someone refuses the vaccine, a transgendered, marginalized, minority puppy with a learning disability and cleft palate meets an undeserved and brutal end to their life”.

*Cue the Sarah McLaughlin Angel music*

 

[jamil]

It's another 'Kirk looks down from the mountaintop upon the unwashed masses' post, like a JD is actually some kind of intelligence test

Dude, I'm not speaking from personal experience, but I have a brother in-law who is a lawyer. It kinda is in a way. Or maybe more of a memory test.

 

[JettaKnight]

What about those who have had the disease? I have the antibodies I don’t need some witches brew injection.

Pragmatically, how do you prove and document that sufficiently?

Not doubting you, just trying to understand the logistics of it.

 

[jamil]

If you travel internationally, one knows that proof of vaccines is nothing new or scary.

Just think of it as analogous to ID to voting.

I'm saying the whole conversation is retarded. You're arguing against something they're not really saying. They're defending against something you're not really saying. It's just retarded. Either get on the same page or let the conversation die a natural death.