It's a big club.But this thread proves my memory aint all that great LOL
And, if a guy wants less windage, and handloads, the 160 and 170 class bullets can be downloaded to drop recoil a little, but retain the benefit of a slicker bullet.BTW, 150's in a .30-06 aint bad recoil wise.
.243 is good medicine for most everything in the eastern half of the country for sure. Save maybe the elk in TN, the moose up in the NE, and the bruiser black bears.All good reasoning, so why not the .243? Seems to meet all the criteria plus it’s cheaper.
Just a thought, and I could be mistaken….
Hello Chris, Welcome to INGO. Stop by the intro thread n say howdy.I really like my 270.
A lot fewer people are than think they are.So I figured out real quick I’m not a recoil junky.
Every Amish community has it's own set of marching orders as set by the elders in that community. So every experience may vary. I purchased a nice WW1 Lugar from one of my Amish friends last year and have sold a lot of .30'06 ammo to others.The Amish have a repulsion toward military things. They banned mustaches after the military allowed them. I have not talked to any old order bishops, but I'll be the 30-06 being a military round may have factored into it.
For 200-300-600 yard target work, I fell in love with the 6.5mm when shooting a 1903 Swedish Mauser. The 6.5 x 55 swede would not fit in a short action model 70, so I bought a reamer and set of dies for a wildcat called 6.5 American, which was based on a .308. Then I replaced it with the .260 Remington which made a fine target rifle but Remington didn't even try to make go. Those were both pretty easy on barrels. It works great for a target gun and the 6.5 bullet BC is a real advantage past 500 or so yards. History shows it was pretty effective for hunting also, not as powerful as a 30-06, but game in the stew pot tastes good.Every Amish community has it's own set of marching orders as set by the elders in that community. So every experience may vary. I purchased a nice WW1 Lugar from one of my Amish friends last year and have sold a lot of .30'06 ammo to others.
I have a good Amish friend that shares my last name have me fix his pocket pistol. It was carried for dogs but what would happen if the need arose, who is to say.
On another note, most youngsters think you can make impact craters on the moon with any of the 6.5 ammo. Swiss and Japs were shooting that stuff a century ago but don't try and tell them that. It all comes down to perception and preference. Having confidence in what you are shooting goes a long way toward success. I will shoot them all but I won't jump on the 6.5 bandwagon as I don't want to get into a caliber that may just be a 'flash in the pan' and will burn up a barrel in 1000 shots. Even an M1 Garand barrel will last 5000+ with a modicum of care and I have lots of those...
The big problem with the .243 and other 6mms is that you need to know a fair amount about bullet selection to get the most out of the caliber for big game hunting. Unfortunately, a lot of people either don't or simply buy the cheapest ammo available and then wound and lose animals when the bullet fails..243 is good medicine for most everything in the eastern half of the country for sure. Save maybe the elk in TN, the moose up in the NE, and the bruiser black bears.
When my daughter bought her .243, I did some research and settled on the Hornady 100 grain Interlock. I'm darned impressed with it. The first load we tried cloverleafed, so we stopped there. The 58 grain Vmax is a laser! She likes to ring steel at 300 yards with them.Based on a conversation with a local Hoosier Record Bucks Program Scorer, .270 is far more popular than .30-06, enough so that he commented on it when a friend had him score a buck he killed with his -06. I'm not sure if that is more of an indication of overall popularity or just that people who kill big bucks tend to use .270s.
The big problem with the .243 and other 6mms is that you need to know a fair amount about bullet selection to get the most out of the caliber for big game hunting. Unfortunately, a lot of people either don't or simply buy the cheapest ammo available and then wound and lose animals when the bullet fails.
Over 55 - 30-06
35-55 - .270
under 35 - 6.5 Creedmoore
A buddy of mine shot a Texas buck with the Hornady American Whitetail 85 or 90 grain load from his .243 on one of our trips. The buck only went about 15 yards but the bullet failed to fully penetrate and left no blood trail on the 80 lb. buck. It was a good thing it didn't make out of sight as it would have been very hard to find in the nearly impenetrable cedar thickets surrounding the clearing he shot it in.When my daughter bought her .243, I did some research and settled on the Hornady 100 grain Interlock. I'm darned impressed with it. The first load we tried cloverleafed, so we stopped there. The 58 grain Vmax is a laser! She likes to ring steel at 300 yards with them.
That's a good point.I would say .30-06 probably because it's been around longer?
I would go with .30-06 because you could reload it with the same bullet as .308 Win and .300 Blk
The casing of the .270 (which began as a necked down .30 caliber) actually predates the .30'06 by three years, but Winchester added it to their providings in 1925, but it was a wildcat for a time before that.I would say .30-06 probably because it's been around longer?
I would go with .30-06 because you could reload it with the same bullet as .308 Win and .300 Blk