View attachment 27153Yes it does, thanks for bringing back those sad memories that I had repressed of my childhood
View attachment 27153Yes it does, thanks for bringing back those sad memories that I had repressed of my childhood
I would imagine it would be hard. I don't advocate shooting a dog unless you know it will be able to do real damage (pit bulls etc.) I know for a fact that I can handle a Doberman without a firearm. I think sometimes people like to talk about shooting dogs because it's another reason to use a gun.Ever try to shoot a moving dog? Extremely difficult to say the least. You will likely not hit it until it either gets VERY close or actually latches on, either way, try not to shoot yourself by accident. A dog getting hit anywhere on its body with a bullet will likely forget about you and attend its wound. I've used OC/CS with decent effect, they become distracted enough to forget about biting me. Thankfully, the VAST majority of "vicious" dogs are not even close, just misunderstood.
OK. Now I'm confused. I looked up Halt on Amazon and it is a pepper spray that is very highly rated for use against dogs. Both regular pepper spray and Halt use capsaicin as their active ingredient. I'd like to have a single item that can handle both dogs and 2-legged critters where the situation doesn't justify lethal force. What am I missing?
You did very well!
To clarify my question, I was not advocating getting on the ground with the dog and trying to choke it like you would a person. I What I was suggesting in my question is done standing. Dogs don't have a lot of flexibility in terms of lifting their head. If you have an arm or other object you can use as a lever in their jaws, you put your other forearm behind it's and using them togther with a little rotation in the direction it can't move, break the neck. If you're not strong enough to do it on the dog in question with just upper body, you can generate a lot of force in this motion lunging forward with the arm in the jaws and pushing down with other on the back. It's hard to describe in person. It's going to be hard to even think about doing it with a big, angry dog mangling your arm, but it's doable.
I've seen experienced dog handlers than can wrestle even angry dogs almost like it was easy. They take advantage of knowing the limitations of the dogs anatomy and movements and even big strong dogs can't do much. I saw a guy wrestle a bit (albeit young) rottweiler to the ground and just hold it helpless until it calmed down. I couldn't do that and I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it happen.
I always shoot the guns out of their paws.
If I have a dog coming at me I'm aiming low, should strike chest or head......and learned hunting chucks many yrs ago with handgun..............you don't pop once and see what your effect was (hit and down the hole is scored as a miss).
Hammer them repeatedly and then see how good you did
So there's a thread about cats, and that reminded me of something I've been meaning to ask for awhile. I run on average 20 miles per week, all outdoors. I've come across my fair share of dogs, some strays, most being walked by dead beat owners who think leash laws don't apply to them.
So, if one of these dogs were to get aggressive, what's the best way to shoot them? (for lack of a better way to ask)
Aim for the head? Aim for the body? Legally do I have to wait to be bitten before it would be obvious self defense?And how would you deal with multiple dogs?
I may think about this too much, but when out on hour solo runs I need something to think about!
[h=2]Where to shoot an attacking dog?[/h]
I do that with "walkers", too!Present your weak arm and take the bite. Three rounds through the low-forward rib cage and if it's still hanging on to your arm, take a crossing shot through the neck, up high and near the base of the skull. If the dog's still chomping after that, you might consider turning the gun on yourself. Seriously though, I think you'll be in a much better fighting position (should it end up in court) if you're bitten and all your shots leave powder burns on the target.
I did that with a Boxer and it ended very poorly for him. Still got the scars, although they've grown faint over time. Personally, I wouldn't waste a single second worrying about getting damaged in a situation like that. Instead, getting damaged is just a given and my objective is to dole out more damage quicker than the other guy, or in this case, dog. There are innumerable ways to deal with a situation like this and every situation will be different. As always, my thoughts on the subject and about $5 will get you a coffee at Starbucks.