You're just saying that to make jeremy happyA shotgun will work fine with the correct ammunition. However I think a carbine (.223/5.56mm) is better. Less recoil, faster follow up shots, bigger magazine capacity and less reloading. Carbine/shotgun/pistol in that order.
A shotgun will work fine with the correct ammunition. However I think a carbine (.223/5.56mm) is better. Less recoil, faster follow up shots, bigger magazine capacity and less reloading. Carbine/shotgun/pistol in that order.
You are looking at this from the wrong perspective. A Shotgun for the most part has 8 or 9 shots then one must reload, a Shooter with a Carbine has 30 shots before he reloads.The M4-like carbine has 30 .223 rounds of ammo ....
Using the 2 3/4" shell, the 00B delivers 9 .36 caliber projectiles with one pull of the trigger.
It has been demonstrated many times that the .223/5.56 is bbasically a 22LR and that shot placement is absolutely critical. You better plan to shoot several times.
You need a 30 round magazine to equate 4 shotgun shells.
And I shoot both the shotgun and AR regularly. While you can state that you prefer the M4, you cannot state that it is 'better' at HD ranges.
With regards to over penetration, you better be shooting frangible because any FMJ will not break up in drywall or plywood.
You are looking at this from the wrong perspective. A Shotgun for the most part has 8 or 9 shots then one must reload,
The M4-like carbine has 30 .223 rounds of ammo ....
Using the 2 3/4" shell, the 00B delivers 9 .36 caliber projectiles with one pull of the trigger.
It has been demonstrated many times that the .223/5.56 is bbasically a 22LR and that shot placement is absolutely critical. You better plan to shoot several times.
You need a 30 round magazine to equate 4 shotgun shells.
And I shoot both the shotgun and AR regularly. While you can state that you prefer the M4, you cannot state that it is 'better' at HD ranges.
With regards to over penetration, you better be shooting frangible because any FMJ will not break up in drywall or plywood.
The tests I've read don't agree with you about much of what your're saying. Shotguns and even 9mm ammo tend to penetrate farther after going through drywall and plywood. Also, I keep FMJ in my AR now, after reading about FMJ rounds used at close range. At those velocities, they fragment and make massive wounds and are pretty good stoppers. I don't know how the TAP ammo reacts in the human body, but if it doesn't fragment it might not be as effective as plain old 55 grain ball.
I had all the assumptions everyone else seems to have, but when it's actually been tested, it appears that things come out differently than "common sense" would indicate.
I don't know how the TAP ammo reacts in the human body,
Have I not read .223 travels at such a speed, that due to size and speed, if the bullet is not tumbling, it is not uncommon for a combatant to not know that they have taken a hit?
My understanding is that the idea of "tumbling" is misunderstood. If the bullet is traveling at above 2700 fps, when it enters the human body it will try to flip over to heave end first. When it begins to turn over, the stresses on the jacked are too much, and it breaks apart inside the body.
Ironically, it's at longer ranges when the velocity is less, that the bullet tends to punch neat holes.