What is my problem?

[Bassat]

I have two well-broken in pocket guns. The Kahr CM9 is a bit over 1300 rounds without an issue (since Kahr CS replaced the original gun as defective). I trust it. I can shoot it. It is reliable. The Keltec P32 is (probably) at about 1000 rounds over 25 years with not a single issue. I trust it. I can shoot it. It is reliable. I have, for the last 2 weeks or so, been reading about the Ruger LCP (original), and .380 ACP in general. There is no practical difference between .32 ACP and .380 ACP with respect to ballistic effectiveness. As with any handgun caliber, shot placement rules the day. There is no practical difference between the size/weight of my P32, and the size/weight of the LCP. Knowing all this, why in the name of all that is good and right do I still want to buy a Ruger LCP? What is my problem?

 

[Scott58]

Good problem to have. I just ordered a Ruger Charger for no other reason then that I wanted it. Its good to be the king.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

380 is quite a bit more powerful than .32acp

Check out some of Paul Harrell's videos on the subject, you'll be busy for hours listening to his anecdotes and Shatneresque... Pauses

 

[Bassat]

380 is quite a bit more powerful than .32acp

Check out some of Paul Harrell's videos on the subject, you'll be busy for hours listening to his anecdotes and Shatneresque... Pauses

That is true... in general. I am quite sure it is possible to find hot .32 ammo that has more muzzle energy than the average .380, though. Both are weeny cartridges. Ammo for the .380 is more expensive, and quite variable wrt penetration/expansion. The main advantage of the P32 is 7+1 vs 6+1 for the LCP. And I already know that ANY .32 round that expands won't penetrate, and ANY .32 round that penetrates won't expand. This allows me to shoot 73gr FMJ in the P32 without fear of overpenetration. I think with .380, I have the choice of two rounds: Hornady Critical Defense, or Precision ONE FTX. Both seem to reliably expand, but are near minimum for penetration. Seems to me a .32 ACP than can penetrate 16"+ will be more effective than a .380 that barely goes over 12". It is also possible that I am thoroughly mistaken. I am still mulling over the purchase of the LCP.

 

[Scott58]

I've got an old .32 long S&W that belonged to my mother and a Browning .380 1911. Not even a comparison really. The .380 is superior. i understand the acp is more powerful, but it would have to be alot more to approach the .380. The Hornady Critical Defence is my round of choice for .380.

 

[chadm]

I have two well-broken in pocket guns. The Kahr CM9 is a bit over 1300 rounds without an issue (since Kahr CS replaced the original gun as defective). I trust it. I can shoot it. It is reliable. The Keltec P32 is (probably) at about 1000 rounds over 25 years with not a single issue. I trust it. I can shoot it. It is reliable. I have, for the last 2 weeks or so, been reading about the Ruger LCP (original), and .380 ACP in general. There is no practical difference between .32 ACP and .380 ACP with respect to ballistic effectiveness. As with any handgun caliber, shot placement rules the day. There is no practical difference between the size/weight of my P32, and the size/weight of the LCP. Knowing all this, why in the name of all that is good and right do I still want to buy a Ruger LCP? What is my problem?

Every time I buy a new gun, I think “why did I do this? I surely didn’t need it.” I’ve started telling myself that I’m going start selling one for every new one I buy. That hasn’t started yet. LOL

 

[MrSmitty]

I have two well-broken in pocket guns. The Kahr CM9 is a bit over 1300 rounds without an issue (since Kahr CS replaced the original gun as defective). I trust it. I can shoot it. It is reliable. The Keltec P32 is (probably) at about 1000 rounds over 25 years with not a single issue. I trust it. I can shoot it. It is reliable. I have, for the last 2 weeks or so, been reading about the Ruger LCP (original), and .380 ACP in general. There is no practical difference between .32 ACP and .380 ACP with respect to ballistic effectiveness. As with any handgun caliber, shot placement rules the day. There is no practical difference between the size/weight of my P32, and the size/weight of the LCP. Knowing all this, why in the name of all that is good and right do I still want to buy a Ruger LCP? What is my problem?

Dang, I thought I was the only one.... I've had a P32 for going on 10+ years, and I love it, but working at Academy, I look at the LCP every night ( we have the original LCP for $199, and I get a discount) and want one, I've actually tried to trade/sell the P32, but my heart keeps telling my to keep the .32......The .380 is slightly more powerful, has a heavier bullet weight, but the .32 is 7 + 1, and the LCP is 6+1..... Basset I feel your pain, maybe we can start a support group....

 

[snuffy33]

And there's also the Bodyguard 2.0 to add to your mix.

 

[MrSmitty]

And there's also the Bodyguard 2.0 to add to your mix.

^^^^^^^^^ This^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[ditcherman]

I have two well-broken in pocket guns. The Kahr CM9 is a bit over 1300 rounds without an issue (since Kahr CS replaced the original gun as defective). I trust it. I can shoot it. It is reliable. The Keltec P32 is (probably) at about 1000 rounds over 25 years with not a single issue. I trust it. I can shoot it. It is reliable. I have, for the last 2 weeks or so, been reading about the Ruger LCP (original), and .380 ACP in general. There is no practical difference between .32 ACP and .380 ACP with respect to ballistic effectiveness. As with any handgun caliber, shot placement rules the day. There is no practical difference between the size/weight of my P32, and the size/weight of the LCP. Knowing all this, why in the name of all that is good and right do I still want to buy a Ruger LCP? What is my problem?

Stop being poor.


I mean, with a thread title like that I couldn’t resist.

 

[Osprey]

I have two well-broken in pocket guns. The Kahr CM9 is a bit over 1300 rounds without an issue (since Kahr CS replaced the original gun as defective). I trust it. I can shoot it. It is reliable. The Keltec P32 is (probably) at about 1000 rounds over 25 years with not a single issue. I trust it. I can shoot it. It is reliable. I have, for the last 2 weeks or so, been reading about the Ruger LCP (original), and .380 ACP in general. There is no practical difference between .32 ACP and .380 ACP with respect to ballistic effectiveness. As with any handgun caliber, shot placement rules the day. There is no practical difference between the size/weight of my P32, and the size/weight of the LCP. Knowing all this, why in the name of all that is good and right do I still want to buy a Ruger LCP? What is my problem?

...because it's a Ruger. However, I am prone to the LC9S with laser.

 

[Bassat]

And there's also the Bodyguard 2.0 to add to your mix.

Nah. Can't stand trigger dongles. And the SAO like pull absolutely sucks.

 

[Born2vette]

My pocket pistol is a Sig P290RS, 6+1 of 9mm. I carry a spare 8 round mag but its a bit chunky to carry and have been considering selling it and getting the Bodyguard 2.0. At one point I tried out several 380 pistols and at that time felt the LCP max was maybe the one but never went for it. Also considered a J frame in 38 but again never did anything.

After handling the Bodyguard 2.0 and hearing reviews on the trigger I may just give it a half a year and get rid of the 290.

 

[Bugzilla]

You have a severe case of Ineedarugaritus! Only one way to cure it.

I like my LCP max.

 

[Born2vette]

Nah. Can't stand trigger dongles. And the SAO like pull absolutely sucks.

I think you are thinking of the original Bodyguard, the 2.0 has a striker fired flat trigger.

ETA. I misread your comment. You actually like long double action triggers. If so you would like my P290

 

[inshooter97]

I love my P32, I bought it earlier this year. My first carry gun.

 

[92FSTech]

I've owned a P32 and there are quite a few LCPs in my "circle", so I have some experience with them.

The P32 is cheaply constructed (I had to fix mine with a hair dryer to keep one of the springs from popping out), has a lousy trigger, useless sights, and is difficult to shoot with any degree of accuracy. But there's nothing else out there quite like it for form factor and weight (IIRC mine was under 10oz). I have big hands so it was always a struggle for me, and I ultimately decided I just wasn't effective enough with it to justify carrying it as an "only gun", especially when I can go just a bit bigger and get into a J-Frame, which I'm much more effective with and confident in.

The LCP has a lot of the same problems as the P32, but it's bigger and produces more recoil, so it's less concealable and less controllable than the P32. If my situation ever changed and ultra-deep concealment became the paramount priority, I might buy another P32. I can't think of a reason that I'd buy an LCP.

 

[armalitesheepdog]

Dang, I thought I was the only one.... I've had a P32 for going on 10+ years, and I love it, but working at Academy, I look at the LCP every night ( we have the original LCP for $199, and I get a discount) and want one, I've actually tried to trade/sell the P32, but my heart keeps telling my to keep the .32......The .380 is slightly more powerful, has a heavier bullet weight, but the .32 is 7 + 1, and the LCP is 6+1..... Basset I feel your pain, maybe we can start a support group....

Count me out.
I buy just cause I want one all the time.
It’s only a problem if you’re using credit or bill money. So if you want it and can afford it then buy it

 

[hoosierdaddy1976]

Had both a p3at and an lcp because I got great deals on them, but they didn't stick around. Don't miss them.

 

[Six Forty-Two]

Every time I buy a new gun, I think “why did I do this? I surely didn’t need it.” I’ve started telling myself that I’m going start selling one for every new one I buy. That hasn’t started yet. LOL

what is this “selling” you speak of?