Well, I'd say this thread is well and truly derailed. Maybe that's a good thing....
Nothing to see here. Move along now. There's a good chap.
You envision Mozart as Asian?You guys heard that kid who is a jazz prodigy? He's Asian, I think from Indonesia.... he's what I envision Mozart was like as kid.
...If you guys don't have Kind of Blue, you're a jazz listener, not a fan....[video=youtube;kbxtYqA6ypM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbxtYqA6ypM[/video]
...I dressed like I was going to see the Replacements at Phoenix Hill and was very embarrassed when we got there and the true Jazz Fans were dressed to the nines...
(Unfortunately, it's the only jazz album a lot of people have. They're fans...but not listeners. Pfft...no worries).
Oops! But I hear you. It's really like going to church, isn't it? Read the Mike Royko "Jackie Robinson" article, for a good analogy. I knew I was getting "old" when I realized I had a closet full of black shirts without writing or logos on them. My friends and I always thought jazz was just good musicians applying their skill to, whatever. That was it. After I got married, it was eye-opening to me that to a lot of fans, "it" really has a different significance to them. They may not know a 2-5-1 from a 9-1-1, but jazz is still very important to them. Probably in the same way that Jackie Robinson was important to some people who didn't know a sacrifice-fly from a flyswatter. Which is okay. It doesn't matter how people get there, as long as they get there (I guess that kinda/sorta of brings this back around to the BLM topic...)
I think it's dismissive to not look at the movement and question 'why' it exists. I won't pretend to agree 100% with the 'why' myself, but it's ignorant to dismiss the movement all together when one could try to understand someone else's viewpoint, and more importantly where they are coming from.
IMO, the complete dependence (and failings) of the promises from the democratic party and policies. I wish repubs would get more involved and fix crap in poor areas... but that's an entirely different discussion all together.
But dismissing this group alltogether, as not being worthy of your time to understand what's happening in the world around you?
Half tempted to trash the thread if the only focus is to bash the movement with little to no solutions or understanding.
The day that BLM spends a proportional amount of time, money, and effort protesting the 95% of black lives that are taken by black perpetrators as they do the black lives that are taken by police officers is the day that I will consider that they are sincere in their message.
Oh, and if they want to protest the violation of civil rights, they should probably stop massively violating the civil rights of others (such as blocking streets and bridges, destroying property, looting, etc.).
Well, your posts got me to go to their website and read what they have to say.There are two flaws with this message. First, there is a significant difference that a life being taken by a criminal, and a life taken by the state. If this isn't true, then why cite the people killed by federal agents killing the people at Ruby Ridge or Waco as being such a tragedy? Why were people upset about those instances? Or better yet, why are people so upset with the way the VA is run and the number of people that die that are supposed to caring for? Essentially, it is hypocritical to be upset to pick and choose which instance to be upset about when the state is the one pulling the trigger.
Secondly, it isn't simply about how many people are murdered. It isn't about raw numbers of people killed. It's about the BLM belief that black people are routine targeted for harassment, countless times during the course of one day. You're argument is essentially the same as the one used by people who say policing isn't an inherent dangerous job, because more loggers get killed than police officers. And yet, her I sit, from an on-duty injury popping pills. So I think citing pure numbers of deaths doesn't tell the full story. So as I was saying, BLM thinks blacks are unfairly targeted for traffic stops, force applied to them unevenly/unjustly, that they bear the financial brunt of shady LE practices to fill city coffers, and are sentenced disproportionately for the same crimes.
Is the above a nationwide problem for each and every city? Certainly not, but there are enough instances that there is a legitimate concern.
There are two flaws with this message. First, there is a significant difference that a life being taken by a criminal, and a life taken by the state. If this isn't true, then why cite the people killed by federal agents killing the people at Ruby Ridge or Waco as being such a tragedy? Why were people upset about those instances? Or better yet, why are people so upset with the way the VA is run and the number of people that die that are supposed to caring for? Essentially, it is hypocritical to be upset to pick and choose which instance to be upset about when the state is the one pulling the trigger.
Secondly, it isn't simply about how many people are murdered. It isn't about raw numbers of people killed. It's about the BLM belief that black people are routine targeted for harassment, countless times during the course of one day. You're argument is essentially the same as the one used by people who say policing isn't an inherent dangerous job, because more loggers get killed than police officers. And yet, her I sit, from an on-duty injury popping pills. So I think citing pure numbers of deaths doesn't tell the full story. So as I was saying, BLM thinks blacks are unfairly targeted for traffic stops, force applied to them unevenly/unjustly, that they bear the financial brunt of shady LE practices to fill city coffers, and are sentenced disproportionately for the same crimes.
Is the above a nationwide problem for each and every city? Certainly not, but there are enough instances that there is a legitimate concern.
Well, there are some definitive albums (typically a couple) in every genre of music.
Not too long ago the R&R HoF list 200 of these albums. Most people have several listed:
Speaking of racist stereotype stories, once upon a time while working for a contractor from Mississippi that had a job here, I was squatting on my heels marking a conduit before putting it in the bender and the foreman asked "Daavid whar you frum? you look like one of them thar sand pipple a-settin' bout the fahr". I told him that I didn't want him to feel out of place above the Mason-Dixon line, so I was impersonating a bunch of red necks sitting around a watermelon on the 4th of July. He laughed and said "we all got furniture now".I'll make an attempt. I think it was the watermelon remark. Generally, that's seen as a perpetuation of a racist stereotype. You could have said "bowling ball". But you said "watermelon ".
Did you get my point? And by "point" I mean like the point on the top of a KKK hood.
See, that's how it came across to some.
There are two flaws with this message. First, there is a significant difference that a life being taken by a criminal, and a life taken by the state. If this isn't true, then why cite the people killed by federal agents killing the people at Ruby Ridge or Waco as being such a tragedy? Why were people upset about those instances? Or better yet, why are people so upset with the way the VA is run and the number of people that die that are supposed to caring for? Essentially, it is hypocritical to be upset to pick and choose which instance to be upset about when the state is the one pulling the trigger.
Secondly, it isn't simply about how many people are murdered. It isn't about raw numbers of people killed. It's about the BLM belief that black people are routine targeted for harassment, countless times during the course of one day. You're argument is essentially the same as the one used by people who say policing isn't an inherent dangerous job, because more loggers get killed than police officers. And yet, her I sit, from an on-duty injury popping pills. So I think citing pure numbers of deaths doesn't tell the full story. So as I was saying, BLM thinks blacks are unfairly targeted for traffic stops, force applied to them unevenly/unjustly, that they bear the financial brunt of shady LE practices to fill city coffers, and are sentenced disproportionately for the same crimes.
Is the above a nationwide problem for each and every city? Certainly not, but there are enough instances that there is a legitimate concern.
Is it a movement? Is it an organization?
I saw the topic come up in another thread on the murders in Dallas.
The linked article from January of 16 gives some insight as to what "Black Lives Matter" really is and what is behind it.
Reds Exploiting Blacks: The Roots of Black Lives Matter
I thought it may be worth sharing here so people know and are aware.
Best regards.