I don't own either a 1911 or a Glock so I have no opinion of either. I would like to know who has seen a melted Glock since its been mentioned here several times.
You might want to test that idea with some old Tupperware first.Have never seen one melt, but will remember it in case ever of a kaboom. Maybe a heat iron can mend one back together and keep me running.
But a great trigger is just a crutch for poor trigger control. If you can shoot a crappy trigger you will be a better shooter with anything that you pick up. If all you shoot is nice light crisp triggers you will suck at anything else you pick up.
So buy an alloy framed 1911. At 24 to 27 ounces (depending on model/size), its only a few ounces heavier than a Glock but much more comfortable to carry, to grasp and more natural to point.
You guys must live on a different planet from me. My experience with 1911s has been absolutely flawless, I have never owned one that has ever experienced a malfunction of any kind. You all talk about the reliability of Glocks, but the one that I owned was the most undependable gun that I have ever owned.
The 1911 has been killing Nazis, Commies, Japs, Terrorists, Jihadists, and all the other enemies of America for 100 years.
Glocks have been carried by cops into donuts shops for only a few short year in comparison.
You guys must live on a different planet from me. My experience with 1911s has been absolutely flawless, I have never owned one that has ever experienced a malfunction of any kind. You all talk about the reliability of Glocks, but the one that I owned was the most undependable gun that I have ever owned.
Shooting matches every weekend, we see a lot of what works and what doesn't.
My Glock runs, and when it doesn't (rare), it's generally my fault do to reloads or the non-Glock barrel I ran for awhile because it's too tight.
I get through around 200-500 rounds almost every weekend, depending on the number of matches I shoot.
and I don't have to "tune" my mags to run either...
You guys are always talking about the near 100% failure rate of 1911's, and I have to wonder: Are we talking about stock 1911A1 with 230gr FMJ? I've been around 1911A1s all my life, and I've never seen the sort of failure rate you guys always talk about. In fact, failures have been so rare for myself and everyone I know, that I can remember them, because they stand out for their rarity.
In fact, if they failed at the rate you guys always claim, I'm amazed that they managed to bandage one together long enough to make the military trials in 1911!!
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The worst experience I have ever had was in a early Colt Delta Elite. Now, with the factory springs, that gun battered itself and I would of bet it's life would of been short. IMO, there is no comparison to that steel frame gun and a Glock 20 on the issue of longevity (barring any kaboom of course). The Glock 20 would handle any load with ease without any signs of battering.
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HICKMAN said:eh... WRONG
There are MANY of us who compete in USPSA matches with Glocks and reloaded ammo all year long. Several of us shooting lead through the standard Glock barrel too.
Please stick with facts and not rumors.
I'm just not getting what a Glock or XD can really do that a pistol designed 75 to 100 years ago cannot.
This is the what I'm talking about. The early Delta's had a serious issue with battering. The 1911 was not made to shoot 10mm. Early Delta's used standard 1911 frames that couldn't handle the load. That's precisely why they stopped producing them for awhile. It would be an utter shame for someone to read that post and be turned off to buying a new Delta because they were lead to believe that this is still the case. The new Delta's have beefed up frames that can handle 10mm. The poster didn't include that information because, most likely, that one bad experience tainted them so much that they have not looked into the new Delta's to see if there was still a battering issue.
Are the new ones beefed up frames or did they change the recoil assy, or both ? Either way, still doesn't change the fact it is still steel to polymer impact vs steel to steel impact. I am a tool maker that has worked with hard metals for 20+ years. I see everyday the failure of hard metals from impact. I was not saying the NEW Delta's are junk. I was saying the Glocks will hold up to the battering better. Until a 1911 comes out and holds up to a caliber such as .357 sig running 40,000 PSI and again, if slide velocity is relative to bullet velocity, I would bet on the Glock every time.
And I also have seen too many people using the nylon shock buffers. They get smashed up too fast to claim there still isn't a battering issue.