I hate to say this, but I would pass on a complaint. Pretty small world up here.
Yes, for "Officers safety", no harm done.
Something about Washington v. Indiana comes to mind with this. NOT kosher unless your son was being stopped for something fairly important.Along the side of the road, an officer can do what he wants. Not much you can do about it at the time. Filing a complaint probably won't do any good either. My son had a similar experience with Purdue Police. Officer saw pink card, ordered son out of car, entered car and retrieved firearm from center console. Shift supervisor was there, and said it was sop.
Mark, the officer in your case was JUST as intrusive as the o.p's! How is his situation any different than yours?
They will do whatever they want to do. If this is their policy then nothing a citizen says will change that.Along the side of the road, an officer can do what he wants. Not much you can do about it at the time. Filing a complaint probably won't do any good either. My son had a similar experience with Purdue Police. Officer saw pink card, ordered son out of car, entered car and retrieved firearm from center console. Shift supervisor was there, and said it was sop. Email to Chief received no reply. Unless you have the disposable income to retain an attorney, complaints fall on deaf ears. Chiefs set sop. If the chief encourages the disarming of all people encountered, not much you can do.
They will do whatever they want to do. If this is their policy then nothing a citizen says will change that.
I have had issue with LEO wanting to enter my car and take my gun. It did not end well for either of us. Long time ago and a life time far away but things have not changed much. Some people just need to be in control and push their authority. Some do not.
Roadside lawyering never seems to work out for the common citizen.
I backed up a rookie who had called for another officer because a guy had a gun in his glovebox. When I arrived, the driver was standing outside the car, and the rook asked me to watch him. He then walked over to the car, and opened the door. I then yelled to him "hey, what the heck are you doing?!?" And he told me "getting the gun." Now typically, it's bad form to argue with another officer, during a traffic stop, but I called the rook back over, had him give the guy back his info, and allowed him to leave. Me and the rookie had a pretty in-depth talk about officer safety, and the 4th Amendment.
Along the side of the road, an officer can do what he wants. Not much you can do about it at the time. Filing a complaint probably won't do any good either. My son had a similar experience with Purdue Police. Officer saw pink card, ordered son out of car, entered car and retrieved firearm from center console. Shift supervisor was there, and said it was sop. Email to Chief received no reply. Unless you have the disposable income to retain an attorney, complaints fall on deaf ears. Chiefs set sop. If the chief encourages the disarming of all people encountered, not much you can do.
Something about Washington v. Indiana comes to mind with this. NOT kosher unless your son was being stopped for something fairly important.
I backed up a rookie who had called for another officer because a guy had a gun in his glovebox. When I arrived, the driver was standing outside the car, and the rook asked me to watch him. He then walked over to the car, and opened the door. I then yelled to him "hey, what the heck are you doing?!?" And he told me "getting the gun." Now typically, it's bad form to argue with another officer, during a traffic stop, but I called the rook back over, had him give the guy back his info, and allowed him to leave. Me and the rookie had a pretty in-depth talk about officer safety, and the 4th Amendment.
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Definitely not kosher, but expensive to prove the point. His offense was speeding. Or, more importantly, speeding at 0030. Another benefit of working night shift. It seems that PUPD and WLPD suspect something nefarious, if you are on the roads "at that time in the morning". I have a friend that works second shift at SIA. He was recently pulled over by WLPD for suspicion of DUI. ( he had his window down when it was 27°, and was observed singing) He was then proned out and cuffed, due to the officer observing a firearm, and a container of marijuana on the front seat. The firearm was actually a claw hammer. And the weed was actually a loaf of banana nut bread. The prevalent question was " where are you headed at this time of the morning ?". My friend got to lay in the snow, but society was saved from a loaf of banana nut bread. And more importantly, officer "Magoo" ensured his own safety.