We don't care what the law says!

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Back to the subject of the thread (or at least closer to it). I work in a Port of Indiana, I know its Illegal to carry into the port as says on the LTCH. But is it possible to have a handgun in a lockable box while on port property? I have looked many times, but can't find a good answer. Any help to this would be great.

Nope. Even locked in a safe it is still a gun in your vehicle and in your possession. I suppose there is the issue of the gun being in a locked box and the legality of a person searching that box to find the gun.

 

[RyanGSams]

Nope. Even locked in a safe it is still a gun in your vehicle and in your possession. I suppose there is the issue of the gun being in a locked box and the legality of a person searching that box to find the gun.

Ok thank you. I was pretty sure it was no, but wanted a clear answer.

 

[JByer323]

Our policy here was updated to reflect the law. Although I never bring mine to work, because I drive a jeep with no top or doors, and the plastic glove box could be pried open with a popsicle stick...

Tuffy Security Products - Jeep Accessories

 

[Cameramonkey]

You can always act on your own behalf. It's acting on behalf of another that starts to become a problem.

"a man who represents himself has a fool for a client."

 

[vwfred69]

I had an argument with my plant manager shorty after the law passed his statement was "I consider this my private property and I won't let people carry on my property". I stated the new law and he said he has lawers. The updated policy now has in bold that you can bring a firearm on the property but it must stay in your vehicle.
Still no pocket knives, but folding box cutters permitted.

 

[DRob]

I believe you are confused here. It is Chrysler's corporate policy that is against the law. I haven't seen anyone recommend any illegal acts in this thread.

No sir. I am simply stating that there are folks here who think it's OK for them to ignore laws they don't like but, apparently, it's not OK for an employer to do the same thing. Perhaps there's confusion but it's not on my part.

 

[AngryRooster]

I had an argument with my plant manager shorty after the law passed his statement was "I consider this my private property and I won't let people carry on my property". I stated the new law and he said he has lawers. The updated policy now has in bold that you can bring a firearm on the property but it must stay in your vehicle.
Still no pocket knives, but folding box cutters permitted.

He needs a class in property rights.

This is what the law says as well. It does not cover any place other than in your vehicle in their parking lot.

 

[Mark 1911]

Funny how that works around here. This place is knee deep in people who think they don't have to obey laws with which they don't agree. Maybe that's a one way street!

Dang. And all these years I thought I would be safe if I just followed the fine example set by the leaders of our nation. Another childhood illusion shattered.

 

[churchmouse]

Every company I have ever worked for has a no firearms in company vehicles. This is why I sub-contract out my skills and drive my own truck. Present company I am selling my services to (yes...tool box whore) tried to push this no gun policy on me. I am still laughing and he is not. He tried to make me sign a liability waiver. I am a separate entity self insured and operating under my own license. Amazing the lengths people go to for control.

 

[1775usmarine]

Norfolk Southern has this policy as well. I inspect freight cars and sometimes my work sends me out on the mainline to assist a train with a problem. Some of these neighborhoods in Gary are right next to the tract and who knows who is trying to steal from the box cars or whatnot. I defy their rules and always have my car gun out of sight and out of mind, though it does no good if I have to go out and get mugged or killed. It would take forever for the railroad police or police in general to get to where I am. Wish they would allow us to carry at work.

 

[HoughMade]

"a man who represents himself has a fool for a client."

No one said it was a good idea. I would agree with Mark Twain, or whoever said this. We're a touch expensive, though.

 

[Meister]

We're a touch expensive, though.

Not really, I've got a guy in Trafalgar that will give me 10 bucks for each Attorney scalp I bring it. Not as sought after as they once were. Too many of ya these days.

 

[Jack Burton]

Just because you say you're a "non-lawyer", if you're giving legal advice and advising others of interpretation of laws, you're practicing law without a license.




Now, I've never taken food from your kid's mouths, I'd appreciate it if you'd return the favor to me and my brethren.

And this is what this kind of "rules" leads to. Thank God it is going to change here soon.

Banning Advice Columnists in the Name of Occupational Licensing - Reason.com

 

[88GT]

Get a small handgun safe and mount it inside your vehicle somewhere?

it's on my list of things to do.

Not worried about the vehicle being stolen? Don't dismiss it so easily. Had mine lifted about 2 years ago. And Mr88GT was telling me how one of his co-workers walked out to the parking lot to find that his F250 SuperDuty was missing. Company security footage showed them backing up a flatbed and loading it up. On company property. We're not talking Walmart here either. Some areas are "but then I'd have to kill you" secure. Okay, well, maybe not that secure. But you could be escorted out the doors without even being given the opportunity to hang up the phone after telling your wife you just got canned and would probably face criminal charges as well. Mr88GT has seen that happen on occasion.

Just because you say you're a "non-lawyer", if you're giving legal advice and advising others of interpretation of laws, you're practicing law without a license.


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Now, I've never taken food from your kid's mouths, I'd appreciate it if you'd return the favor to me and my brethren.

As a fellow licensee of the state, I find that kind of justification ridiculous. Licensing is just a protectionist scheme. If you can't drum up enough work without having the government limit the entry into the playing field, maybe you aren't worth it after all. That said, as it stands, it would be a criminal act and I don't advise doing it.

He needs a class in property rights.

Actually, the state of Indiana does. My property, my rules. No functional difference if there's a business operated on the property or not. At least that's how it should be. We all know government thinks it's okay for it to pick the winners and losers.

And this is what this kind of "rules" leads to. Thank God it is going to change here soon.

Banning Advice Columnists in the Name of Occupational Licensing - Reason.com

Could you clarify?

 

[HoughMade]

Nearly every day I encounter a situation that explains the need for the "purple" text, but yet I just go on thinking that the sarcasm is obvious. Silly me.

Wow.

Anyhoo, if you people want to hire unlicensed and untrained lawyers, I guess that doesn't bother me too much. I'm pretty sure whatever business I lose will be back pretty quickly. I know every internet yahoo thinks they can do what I do, but well, just try it and see. Good Luck!

 

[88GT]

Nearly every day I encounter a situation that explains the need for the "purple" text, but yet I just go on thinking that the sarcasm is obvious. Silly me.

Wow.

Whatevs. You aren't foolin' me.

 

[Jack Burton]

Could you clarify?

The proper lawsuits should start in taking care of this nonsense around the country. It will work it's way here