Vaccine coercion/bribery

[jsx1043]

Coming soon, to an everywhere near you...

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I think if you couple that with the Scotland study I also cited (taking the high vaccine adoption numbers as possibly a valid stand-in for all of the UK) it should tell you at the very least that the vaccine is no help and quite likely a hinderance to recovery. I don't believe you could explain all of the variance in who is most likely to get sick, Vax or non-vax, as determined by who were the most likely to take the vaccine, but I'd like to see you try. Scotland had better than 90% having taken at least one dose, and one dose by itself is thought to be over 80% effective

Your seeming insistence on a data set broken down by all co-morbidities, even though I'm not sure you could characterize a relative hierarchy of seriousness of same in order to use that information meaningfully (ie: is it worse to have obesity or HBP or diabetes and statistically HOW MUCH worse), is noted

Perhaps you will wait for a twins study or one based on a 'perfect' data set. Might want to stock up on snacks, I believe it will be a long wait

I didn't see the Scotland study you linked, but is this it?

DEFINE_ME

www.thelancet.com

As for who is most likely to get sick, it's pretty obvious from the study you linked. It appears the non-vax are, 35.5k vs 4.1k. And not sure where you are getting the effective % from. From the Scotland study I linked it shows 92% for both doses of the pfizer vs S gene negative and 70% vs S gene positive (delta varient) for the Astra Zenica it's 72% and 60% respectively. For single dose from the studies I can find for the Delta variant it's about 30-40%.

As for telling who is vaxed vs non vaxed and gets sick by who is more likely to have been vaxed. I never said you could. I did state that those who are high risk are more likely to have had the vaccine. Do you dispute that? Can't find data for all the co-mobidities but for age in the UK age 60+ the vax rate is 90% or higher, for the 25-29 maybe 60%. Which group has the higher fatality rate?

Oh and the Scottish vaccination rate you quoted may be accurate now, it wasn't when the study was conducted.

UK vax rate by age group.

Covid vaccine: How many people are vaccinated in the UK?

A look at progress made in vaccinating the country, as more than 52 million people have received at least one dose and 38 million have had a booster or third dose.

www.bbc.com

Single dose effectiveness.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

And my insistence? I just stated that for the purpose of determining if the vax makes an infection worse, that the study is worthless, and I stand by that. And no need to break it down by all co-morbidities or rank them by hierarchy. A simple breakdown by age and number of co-morbidities would be of more use than that study.

 

[vulindlela]

Coming Soon For The Unvaccinated: A $50 Monthly Paycheck Deduction From Your Employer

Employers are beginning to tack on a special surcharge of up to $50 a month for unvaccinated workers, according to the health benefits consultancy Mercer.

www.forbes.com

 

[jamil]

What do you call some that graduates last in their med school class?


Doctor.

You and I are engineers. We're not doctors. At best I can point out where this doctor and information from various other sources is either consistent or inconsistent. But you've gone beyond that to imply that the reason this guy is going against CDC guidelines is because he isn't a very good doctor. And how could you possibly know that? Because he disagreed with the CDC?

 

[ditcherman]

What do you call some that graduates last in their med school class?


Doctor.

You and I disagree on a lot of the fundamentals of this subject, but when I read your post I wanted to ask you if we’ve met, because that’s my joke, I’ve never heard anyone else tell it and no ones heard it when I tell it (ok don’t ask my kids and wife about that…).
I thought it was just a good delivery.
I did not watch the video, I just laughed at your joke.
Of course if you were disparaging the good dr you should be ashamed of yourself, we don’t do that here on INGO.

 

[ditcherman]

Coming soon, to an everywhere near you...

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And if, when they try to force you to wear that, you tell them that’s ghey, you score double points!

 

[rhamersley]

Boy, Holcomb’s hopeful senate race polling must be really in the toilet thanks to his “pandemic” responses…

Holcomb: State Should "Encourage and Persuade" COVID Vaccination, Not Require It

(INDIANAPOLIS) — Indiana is urging Hoosiers to get the COVID-19 vaccination, but won’t be making it a requirement. Coronavirus spread in Indiana is at its highest level since February, but just over half of eligible Hoosiers have gotten the vaccine. Holcomb says he’ll “shout from the rooftops”...

www.wibc.com

 

[sparky32]

From a doctor in Indiana.

Youtube took it down...

 

[wtburnette]

Youtube took it down...

Shocking that the thought police did their thing.

 

[Leadeye]

Coming Soon For The Unvaccinated: A $50 Monthly Paycheck Deduction From Your Employer

Employers are beginning to tack on a special surcharge of up to $50 a month for unvaccinated workers, according to the health benefits consultancy Mercer.

www.forbes.com

Meh, I'll just go to work for their competitors and make money for them.

 

[JettaKnight]

You and I are engineers. We're not doctors. At best I can point out where this doctor and information from various other sources is either consistent or inconsistent. But you've gone beyond that to imply that the reason this guy is going against CDC guidelines is because he isn't a very good doctor. And how could you possibly know that? Because he disagreed with the CDC?

It's a joke, Jamil, like this whole thread has become.

Anyone know why the video got taken down?

 

[HoughMade]

From a doctor in Indiana.

I'm late to the party and the video is down. I a lot of involvement with doctors in Indiana. I am curious as to who this is...and what he said.

 

[Ingomike]

It's a joke, Jamil, like this whole thread has become.

Anyone know why the video got taken down?

It works better if you know your audience and serve up the correct joke, otherwise the jokes on you...

It was taken down because many of those who believe like you will not allow free speech...

 

[JCSR]

It's a joke, Jamil, like this whole thread has become.

Anyone know why the video got taken down?

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[lovemachine]

I'm late to the party and the video is down. I a lot of involvement with doctors in Indiana. I am curious as to who this is...and what he said.

Here’s the full video. 15 minutes in the doctor speaks.

 

[tbhausen]

Love the artwork that accompanies that story.

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That’s actually chilling.

 

[JettaKnight]

Love the artwork that accompanies that story.

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Wow.

hard to square that with people saying pro-vax camp is the one pushing a scare campaign.

 

[wtburnette]

It's a joke, Jamil, like this whole thread has become.

Anyone know why the video got taken down?

I'm thinking it's not the thread that has become a joke.

 

[NKBJ]

Thanks for the link. Enjoyed listening.

 

[printcraft]

It's a joke, Jamil, like this whole thread has become.