+1 for the mention, "climb to glory" and all that.
The Soc. Sec. office in Owensboro has armed guards. The clients are seperated from the clerks by a wall with locked doors and tall bulletproof? windows a mere 6 in. wide and a slot at the bottom barely big enough to slip a card or paper thru. Guess they're getting scared of us old farts too.
"The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money." - Margaret Thatcher
When the money runs out ... see riots in France, UK, Ireland, etc.
Riots in France?
Dont believe all you see on the news.
I live in France and I never seen any riot but on TV.
Something happen in one single city with a little group of person and when you watch international news channels (mainly US ones) they make it sound like its civil war in the whole country.
Some people are really getting desperate, and the sad thing is if they take out their frustrations on the people at the unemployment office, they are taking it out on the wrong people.
Indiana Department of Workforce Development IS a State agency, it is also backed by Federal dollars. It is NOT a private company contracted to the State.
Trespass is not the only violation you may possibly be looking at if someone decides to press charges. Local ordinances will apply on government property whether owned or leased by the government.
Charged with what? Treaspassing? One is not breaking any Indiana Law by going into the unemployment office with a gun. If you have an LTCH.
i cannot speak for local ordinances, but state law says:
(also note, i am not a lawyer, so this is not legal advice)
IC 35-43-2-2
Criminal trespass; denial of entry; permission to enter; exceptions
Sec. 2. (a) A person who:
(1) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly
or intentionally enters the real property of another person after
having been denied entry by the other person or that person's
agent;
(2) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly
or intentionally refuses to leave the real property of another
person after having been asked to leave by the other person or
that person's agent;
http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar43/ch2.pdf
so, in theory (which is where you will need a lawyer for legal advice), you cannot trespass on state property since it does not belong to a "real person", AND since you have a contractual interest in the property (applying for unemployment in this instance). this may or may not apply to schools and libraries. now to my knowledge, this theory has not been tested 1) no one has challenged it, or 2) officers have not arrested for it.
DISCLAIMER: city ordinances may include govt property in their trespassing ordinances
Here is the issue, which I don't think has ever been tested. It is true that signs that simply say "No guns" don't hold any water. However, signs are a means of communication under the trespassing statue, so it could be argued that a sign that states "Entry into this property is hereby denied to anyone carrying a firearm" could be enough notification.
IC 35-41-1-22
"Person" defined
Sec. 22. (a) "Person" means a human being, corporation, limited liability company, partnership, unincorporated association, or governmental entity.
(b) "Person", for purposes of section 10.6 of this chapter, means an adult or a minor.
Would YOU arrest/cite based on a sign with that particular verbiage, and no other request/refusal to leave the premises?
I believe Work One isn't state owned, I am thinking its a privatized corporation. They do have signs up, so if caught, you will most likely be asked to leave. When I was using the center trying to appeal my unemployment and look for a job a few months back, I knew the guard in anderson. He was already carrying(july/aug) and he knew I usually was as well. Didn't seem to mind
Edit: But as this streak drags on, and the govt keeps extending benifits, when they get cut off, there will prolly be a bunch of beyond ticked off people who lost their meal ticket. Basically work one is gearing up for this eventuality
In Anderson It is posted on all doors and the two posts outside. No guns knives or weapons permitted and violators will be charged.