Mosinowner
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- Aug 1, 2011
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How about a just a UN ban?
how many congressmen and senators saidm they wouldnt support Obamacare and look what happened.
how many congressmen and senators saidm they wouldnt support Obamacare and look what happened.
58 of them already said they are against it. How does that leave enough to ratify it? You need 66.I haven't had time to research this but Dick Morris said it doesn't matter if it's ratified, which it would be at the current count of senators that support it. However, if it's signed, it doesn't have to be ratified if Harry Reid doesn't bring it up for a vote. The U.S. would be bound by it if it's signed and waiting for a vote. So, if it's signed at the end of the month like its expected to be and Obama gets re-elected then we would be bound by it for the next 4 years and 4 months.
I wrote to Lugar and Coats asking them if this goes through with Hillery, to not ratify the BS Treaty. Below is Lugar's reply to me:
Dear Mr. Schmidt:
Thank you for contacting me about a treaty related to the control of small arms. I appreciate having the benefit of your views and welcome this opportunity to respond.
I support the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens to possess firearms for sporting, collecting, and defensive purposes; I also support Indiana law related to the purchase and ownership of firearms. Indiana's Constitution provides both a liberty and a property right to bear firearms, which is stronger Second Amendment protection than the residents of many states enjoy.
Although meetings on a conceptual treaty related to the trade of conventional weapons are occurring, whether such a treaty will be finalized and what it would contain are not yet known. If a treaty is signed by a President in the future it would be subject to the advice and consent of the Senate, requiring the very high standard of a two thirds vote.
To date, the Administration has not engaged with the Senate on such a treaty. Any treaty dealing with arms should receive extremely close scrutiny to ensure that it does not infringe on the Constitutional rights of Americans.
Thank you, again, for contacting me.
Sincerely
Richard G. Lugar
United States Senator
How about a just a UN ban?
It's 67 actually, not 66...58 of them already said they are against it. How does that leave enough to ratify it? You need 66.
Without a 2/3 majority in the Senate this SAT will have no power here. If you ask me, we should immediately withdraw from the UN. It's of no value to the US.
if they ban small arms, where might one purchase large ones instead???