Trump 2024 ???

[BugI02]

He also signed on to endorse Thiel's errand boy because he would rather that we lose an AZ senate seat than pick a winner named Ducey.

I won't mention CfG because it seems you can't handle the truth

But DeSantis endorsed Walker, Lake and Masters, so he picked the same losers that Trump supposedly did. But only Trump gets your opprobrium

Seems biased, maybe DeSantis' political acumen 'ain't all that'

 

[BugI02]

Its just weird that the best Trump defense regarding candidate picks is that he was really no different from anyone else. So regarding Trump and coattails, it appears Trump has no advantage for 2024 over any other declared candidate.

So, in light of some wanting to depict Trump's endorsees as UNIQUELY horrible and the cause of all our troubles, you don't think proving his picks were no worse, and in fact the same as, other GOP or libertarian mega donors and PACs refutes that idea?

And Trump is the ONLY declared candidate, I believe, so you are trivially correct - he has no advantage over himself

 

[sopwith21]

 

[Ziggidy]

It's all kind of strange. I read all the posts from people who truly dislike Trump, from people who wish he'd just shut up about the election, and the never Trumpers who are just weird. They all have an opinion about the election. They all have answers for the questionable activities but usually end the conversation with "he's just gotta let go of the election and move on.

Move on? How many here would just say, ok, I lost - it's time to sweeten the tweets and move on. Trump, who actually did good for this country, did nothing different. He's the same as he was back then. The election was stolen and it's pretty obvious to most that some activities were indeed not proper.

What if that was your election? How would you feel? How would you act? My guess is no different that what we see in Trump. But one forgets, it was YOUR vote they messed with and by doing nothing you truly show you do not care (IMO). Either you do not care or you never cared in the first place!

2022 enters and we see the anti-Trump field grow. Really? The only difference Isee is that people feel more comfortable speaking out against Trump. The anti are aligning themselves with the rino's and seemingly are proud of it. In 2022 we see the all out takeover of our systems by our government; with the exception of a few who may have nearly lost because of lack of party support. IOW, the weasels feel more comfortable about raising their heads.

I see it in INGO and elsewhere. True colors are being shown.

At this time, I support Trump all the way. Who do you support?

 

[KG1]

It's all kind of strange. I read all the posts from people who truly dislike Trump, from people who wish he'd just shut up about the election, and the never Trumpers who are just weird. They all have an opinion about the election. They all have answers for the questionable activities but usually end the conversation with "he's just gotta let go of the election and move on.

Move on? How many here would just say, ok, I lost - it's time to sweeten the tweets and move on. Trump, who actually did good for this country, did nothing different. He's the same as he was back then. The election was stolen and it's pretty obvious to most that some activities were indeed not proper.

What if that was your election? How would you feel? How would you act? My guess is no different that what we see in Trump. But one forgets, it was YOUR vote they messed with and by doing nothing you truly show you do not care (IMO). Either you do not care or you never cared in the first place!

2022 enters and we see the anti-Trump field grow. Really? The only difference Isee is that people feel more comfortable speaking out against Trump. The anti are aligning themselves with the rino's and seemingly are proud of it. In 2022 we see the all out takeover of our systems by our government; with the exception of a few who may have nearly lost because of lack of party support. IOW, the weasels feel more comfortable about raising their heads.

I see it in INGO and elsewhere. True colors are being shown.

At this time, I support Trump all the way. Who do you support?

You have your choice and that's fine. Are not others entitled to their choice without being labeled as "weird" or "deraigned" because they may not be as enthusiastic about Trump as you think they should be? What exactly do you mean by "showing their true colors"? Is it because they don't follow everything that you do, or Trump does without question when there are things that are questionable about Trump in the opinion of others?

They are saying Trump is not infallible.

 

[asevans]

I support all the way.
I watched the election being stolen in real time from Fox News on Election Day and for the weeks and months following the election. I can’t and will not unsee it. EVER.
I wasn’t big into politics or government. But now I AM AWAKE.
We can’t win playing the game. The primary candidate game.
They make the rules.
They hate you.
We must turn the board over.
Turn the table over.
When are the American people going to confront these criminals?

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Yes or no question for any that want to answer.

Shoud any ballots without an accurate chain of custody log be counted in an election?

No... but in many places it does require a change in the laws to outlaw drop boxes, ballot "harvesting" by paid operatives and mailing unsolicited absentee/mail-in ballots.

IMO, Georgia got a lot right with their election law updates.

There were videos & depositions showing democratic operatives going into nursing homes and pre-filling out ballots for them to sign, many of which likely did not even have the capacity to understand or read those ballots they were signing. And we have no idea how many of them could (understand). Should an elderly person who doesn't even have power of attorney (i.e. given to family members) even be allowed to vote?

(I don't know the legality of such persons voting, is it legal to vote if you don't even have POA for ones own personal affairs and would it be a good idea to allow such?) Maybe a good discussion in itself.

I don't know either, but I cannot find anything that automatically strips the right to vote. I'm pretty sure PoA does not confer the right to "vote for the person", but will need to educate myself in the next 2 years. My dad has progressing dementia... in 2020 he could find and mark Trump and knew that's who he wanted to vote for. 2 years from now... very doubtful... if all he can indicate is that he wants to "vote for who he usually and always voted for..." is that enough? I dunno. If all he can muster then is "I want to vote for the good guys", is that enough for me to assist him - because I absolutely know he means NO DEMOCRATS! Would someone other than a family member know? Nope!

And I think you are referring to this stuff in Wisconsin... some instances of which I think was clearly illegal with a completely incapacitated person "voting".

New Election Review Details Vote Fraud At Nursing Homes And Illegal Advantage Given To Zuckerberg’s Partisan Groups | MacIver Institute

www.maciverinstitute.com

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Question for anyone who wants to answer:

What Blue states do you think Trump can flip in 2024?

Blue as in blue in 2016? Not... a... single... one.

Ones he lost in 2020? He has a shot at GA and PA, approaching a

zero chance he'll do the work needed to flip them back... so not... a... single... one.

Yep, thinking like yours and JK is why we have unsecured elections. It is not just the left. There is a cost to unsecured elections and a different cost for convenience in elections. The reason the laws will not get changed is that NO ONE wants the inconvenience of secure elections.

I would disagree and say that folks who say "One day, one place and show up with your ID and vote... or you can't vote" cause normal people to shrug off the ideas around securing elections and dismiss them as crackpot conspiracy theories, of which we already have a saturated market to choose from. Ditto the Trump won by a landslide, he is the rightly elected prez and the election was stolen.

Decouple from that and Trump and you get places like Georgia moving the needle in the right direction.

Your nursing home example is the same old sob story as the old woman that cannot drive and does not have a license.

It's not... previous to the pandemic, in that state, someone not physically able to appear at the polls due to a list of reasons was allowed to vote by absentee/mail-in. In that case, what Trump fought after the election, was adding quarantined long-term care facilities to the list of reasons to get that ballot.

AFAIK, every state has a free/cheap ID for non-drivers. So that's a completely different issue (IMO, non-issue, get an ID)

They make up a negligible statistical group but open holes fraudsters can drive truck loads of ballots through.

A citizen has a right to vote and reasonable accommodations should (and likely MUST) be made to allow them their right, so I disagree with the negligible part of the statement above BUT do agree that some states have open Mack-truck sized holes.

Dismissing those people's right to vote also means dismissing people who would be for reforms of the later.

Again, see Georgia.

More small thinking, is our military so ineffective that it is incapable of maintaining a chain of custody of election ballots?

I'll let someone who served answer this... but if it requires every clerk and officer along the way to document every single one... or it'll be thrown out... no.

I have high confidence in our fighting capabilities... make-work paperwork of the military bureaucracy... not so much.

It can be done if the priority is there. Are you aware that, as I have read, those precious military ballots are often never even processed unless there is a need for them to, like if there is a 10k win and 5k of military ballots that are not needed, again as I have read, varies by state…

I am aware and this is a problem... a big problem... they need to count them everytime because number one, they are legitimate votes, even if they don't change the outcome. Not counting them every time disenfranchises our overseas military members. That's enough in itself. And two, you never know what the "problems" are if you never look at them until they "really count".

I won't mention CfG because it seems you can't handle the truth

I handled your fiction and showed you the truth.

But DeSantis endorsed Walker, Lake and Masters, so he picked the same losers that Trump supposedly did. But only Trump gets your opprobrium

Show me where DeSantis (or anyone not named Trump) picked and endorsed Walker, Oz, Vance (we keep forgetting Bolduc) in the PRIMARY as the party's best chance to win.

BIG difference between PICKING/RECRUITING a candidate and ENDORSING the party primary winner to keep the seat from the Dems.

After the primaries, there were only one-or-two differences between Trump and DeSantis endorsements... plus two big winners Trump DID NOT endorse... DeSantis and Kemp!

Seems biased, maybe DeSantis' political acumen 'ain't all that'

DeSantis and the Florida GOP did a great job of recruiting quality candidates in Florida.

Check the scoreboard.

In the most (not all) cases that Trump bucked a state GOP, Trump's hand-picked candidate lost. Just look at the Republican primaries that Dems put money into... and backed TRUMP candidates in the primaries. Best campaign money they spent.

So, in light of some wanting to depict Trump's endorsees as UNIQUELY horrible and the cause of all our troubles, you don't think proving his picks were no worse, and in fact the same as, other GOP or libertarian mega donors and PACs refutes that idea?

Endorsees? No, mostly the same as everyone... HAND-PICKED candidates in the primaries? Mostly clowns that lost.

And Trump is the ONLY declared candidate, I believe, so you are trivially correct - he has no advantage over himself

How's that been working for him so far? Polls are just polls... but Trump is dropping like a rock.

 

[Route 45]

I’m betting Trump could flip some red states blue, rather than the other way around. If it wasn’t for his stupid, massive ****ing ego, he’d still be President.

Almost nobody voted for Biden…that much is true. I have no problem at all believing that millions voted against Trump. It’s not just the bullet points on what a President does for the country. He has to be, if not likeable, at least tolerable as a person.

He’s not, for many Americans. Not anymore, anyway. He had his shot, and he blew it. His own worst enemy, really. If you can’t see that, you’re probably a lot like him.

That’s not a compliment.

 

[Ziggidy]

You have your choice and that's fine. Are not others entitled to their choice without being labeled as "weird" or "deraigned" because they may not be as enthusiastic about Trump as you think they should be? What exactly do you mean by "showing their true colors"? Is it because they don't follow everything that you do, or Trump does without question when there are things that are questionable about Trump in the opinion of others?

They are saying Trump is not infallible.

Never thought he was infallible.

I understand and and appreciate discussion of policies and such but where are they? The corner has been turned, socialism is not just a thought, it's a reality and as long as we continue measure the value of a politician by how they make us feel, then we are truly in trouble. We are discussing who is the best person to do the job and turn this country around. AT THIS POINT we have only one person running. The person running has a record, a pretty good one, yet we are destroying him.

When one looks below the surface and understands why the left and rinos dislike him, that alone should promote support. Instead, we play right into the hands of those who do not want him to win.

Weird? I don't know. The guy was a good president. Why not allow him the opportunity again? Guess I do think it's weird.

BTW, I never used the word deranged, not a word I use in my vocabulary. Suggesting I did use it, well, is also weird.

 

[oze]

Is there a way to block a thread? I keep telling myself to look away but can't help myself from looking at the carnage every few days.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Is there a way to block a thread? I keep telling myself to look away but can't help myself from looking at the carnage every few days.

I just keep skipping to the last post to keep it off my radar.

ETA: Just like I do with Covid-related threads.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

In four states, the Republican Senate candidate performed 6-7% below the combined Republican House candidates in that state:



What did the Republican Senate candidates in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia and Ohio have in common? Hmmm....

 

[Ingomike]

What did the Republican Senate candidates in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia and Ohio have in common?

Maybe that cheating ran rampant in them?

 

[Twangbanger]

Is there a way to block a thread? I keep telling myself to look away but can't help myself from looking at the carnage every few days.

Past six days:

"Trump made sh!t choices in some key races!"

(Two hours late-air...)

"Oh yeah...well, other people parroted support for those sh!t choices, too, so...uh, there."

 

[oze]

Past six days:

"Trump made sh!t choices in some key races!"

"Oh yeah...well, uh, other people parroted support for those sh!t choices, too, so...uh, there."

Thanks. I'll try to hold off coming here for 6 days.

 

[ditcherman]

Is there a way to block a thread? I keep telling myself to look away but can't help myself from looking at the carnage every few days.

Same.

 

[KG1]

Same.
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I can save it!!

 

[Super Bee]

Trumps big announcement today. Anyone taking bets?

My guess he is running for Speaker of the House.

Other options.

"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"

"I saved 10 percent by switching to Geico"

 

[Twangbanger]

Kanye for the other GA Senate seat...