Do you mean in the same way you marginalize people by claiming they expect you to **** Trump's **** or similar hyperbole - kiss the ring comes to mind - when they venture the opinion that he is a proven fighter who did many good things for the country against tremendous and unscrupulous resistance and is their first choice to reprise that performanceHow is that virtue signaling and not merely expressing my thinking on it? So the virtue-signal comment you made seemed to me that you were trying to marginalize me to counter my criticisms, instead of actually countering my criticisms.
I'm ~275 down from ~300. So technically I guess I could say I'm about as full of myself as I care to be, but not quite as much as I used to be. I'd like to get down to maybe 225. I could live [longer] with that.
I have no disagreement with Trump being a proven fighter, except I would probably include in my ratings fights he lost because of his lack of control. I also have no disagreement that on balance he was good for this country. And no disagreement that he faced a **** storm of opposition to everything he tried to do, though I would remind that some of that opposition was fueled by his own behavior.Do you mean in the same way you marginalize people by claiming they expect you to **** Trump's **** or similar hyperbole - kiss the ring comes to mind - when they venture the opinion that he is a proven fighter who did many good things for the country against tremendous and unscrupulous resistance and is their first choice to reprise that performance
Yes, for the sake of representing a fuller perspective, I’d like all the relevant things that are true to be in the conversation. And yes, I expect pushback from those who would rather not have a critical view expressed. Though if that pushback is in good faith, it should probably not look like a full scale attack from the usual suspects.If what you are saying is you feel that pushback is needed when expressed opinions of Trump are too hagiographic, I can see that - as long as you accept that pushback will come when opinions are too antagonistic
Oh. See. This is again an instance where you mischaracterized the situation. I have told you many times that multiple things can be true at the same time. One can think a candidate has low character and yet vote for him because the other candidate sucks more. That’s that pragmatism we talked about that you seemed to think I claimed I didn’t have.That said, porn star ****ing is so 2016. You had your chance not to vote for him because of those sensibilities - twice - and you voted for him anyway. Smart money says it isn't really a deal-breaker, even for you. So, one wonders exactly why you feel the need to rehash it
This is actually hilarious because I was going to use the same comparison in my reply to the post where you accused me of virtue signaling. I didn’t because I thought it was too inflammatory.Edit: I feel that 'I voted for Trump' is the politics equivalent of 'I have black friends' in the racism space
Jesus christ dude. Calm the **** down. You keep trying to make this about me.So, argue in an arena defined by you, under RoE set by you and dealing only with subject matter accepted by you in order to receive the imprimatur of jamil approval?
I cannot help but see you in my minds eye as the stereotypical dude sitting at the folding table, sign saying 'Trump is a horrible person, change my mind' draped over the front
I cannot in good faith argue in what you define as good faith, the fact that you are full of yourself (change my mind ) needs to be addressed. I just don't see being required to accept your premise that Trump is persona non grata is justified. Yes, he has moral failings, but I'm not hiring him because of some need for him to be a role model. I'm hiring him to take an axe to regulation, red tape and woke overreach. It would also be less Kutsistent if there was evidence that you held more than Trump to those supposed moral standards. Perhaps I missed your ringing condemnations of marital infidelity when they targeted anyone other than Trump
The hand washing metaphor is apt. As long as you can tell yourself you HAD to vote for Trump next time, you can still feel that the hem of your garment is clean - and that is what really matters. Prior to that denouement, you can enjoy the delicious pleasure of faux moral superiority
Another nevertrumper weighs in on recent "polling"...
Hmmm. Interesting formulation. Porn star ****ing was 16 years (and two elections ago)Yeah, that's pretty stupid. First, it's only 2 points. That's not even newsworthy. Second, it's 2 years away. Report on it when it matters. When it's significant enough to report on. But no. There are clicks and views to be had, so let's make something of nothing.
Foszoe, is that you?[Pages of words]
Dude, you're just parsing words into anything you can fit into a personal complaint at this point. But let me address it anyway.Hmmm. Interesting formulation. Porn star ****ing was 16 years (and two elections ago)
From where is sit your automatic, instinctive assumption that your viewpoint is the correct one is the problem
Best I can offer (flips coin) is more succinct condemnation, 'cause I don't use ignore
That's not going to happen.Hopefully there’s a huge red wave in November, and a veto-proof majority in the House and Senate.