Hey let us not forget the true story that Trump had Russian hookers pee on a bed while he watched in a Moscow Ritz Carlson that the Obamas previously slept in.
LOL - Kut was all in on that one.
Hey let us not forget the true story that Trump had Russian hookers pee on a bed while he watched in a Moscow Ritz Carlson that the Obamas previously slept in.
Really...
Kut was getting his information from the HRC news agency.LOL - Kut was all in on that one.
Or, it's made up. Dismissing her claims is reasonable. It's just a claim. It's not like Biden, where the right wing claims that he's a pedo is without evidence. Hunter's own words is evidence. Is daughter's own diary is evidence. His creepy sniffing when he's near young girls is evidence. Do you dismiss that in the face of evidence?
Well, what evidence is there that Trump did this other than an accusation? You guys build this image of Trump as a mass raper based on just claims. Believe all women? Ha! Why don't you believe Biden's daughter?
And, the highlighted is why I don't take you seriously. At first I gave you benefit of the doubt, and engaged with you in good faith. This is just further evidence that YOU are not engaging in good faith.
I mean people poke at you quite a lot, and I realize that's an understatement. And that could give you a reason to be this disingenuous. But then you show why you're actually here. It's not just because you're curious about why Trumpers believe what they believe as you've claimed.
Your God-king:
So, the closer posters are to your own treasured positions the better you rate their veracity. Got it!Not at all. I do think Joe B is a creep...but, between the two, I think Trump is creepier.
I do.
The choice is between a guy with a couple accusations, and a guy with dozens of settlements for accusations.
Neither is clean…but Trump is a whole lot dirtier by comparison.
I engage with different posters here on different levels...and with very good reason: I am operating in hostile territory.
There are a handful of posters here who regularly bring perspective and insight that challenge my own perspectives, and I routinely engage enthusiastically and in good faith with those posters…you are one of them, along with Chip, FoZoe, JettaKnight, GFGT, KLB, HKFan, and about a dozen others. I feel relatively comfortable dropping my defenses when I reply to you and these other posters.
As far as being here to understand Trumpers: that is absolutely true, but…there is some nuance to this position.
First, I recognize that “Trumpers” is a vague definition with limited utility...there are degrees of “Trumpiness”.
There are the more reluctant Trump voters...the nose-holders…the voters who don’t like Trump, but view him as the lesser of two awful choices. They might not like or agree with many of his positions and policies, but they see the only other choice they have as the much worse one…I don’t view this group with doubt or suspicion, and it pretty accurately mirrors my opinion of Biden. I am always willing to discuss topics in good faith with this poster…eager, even.
Then there are the Trump supporters…these people are not holding their nose, they see Trump as a desirable choice (not least worst), and agree with at least some of his positions and policies. I don’t understand this position, but I don’t think it is necessarily unreasonable and I am happy to engage in good faith with these posters so long as they show a willingness to do the same.
Finally, there are the Trump Cultists…these posters are devoted apologists who trade in absurdity. They get from me exactly what they give…if they want good faith from me they need to act in good faith themselves, otherwise…it’s just an invitation to the troll olympics.
Most rich and famous people end up having to settle these cases. Gold diggers everywhere. Did Trump rape those women? Or did they just claim he did because they want some of his money?Not at all. I do think Joe B is a creep...but, between the two, I think Trump is creepier.
I do.
The choice is between a guy with a couple accusations, and a guy with dozens of settlements for accusations.
Neither is clean…but Trump is a whole lot dirtier by comparison.
I don't hate Trump. I wouldn't say I'm a supporter per se, other than I will apologetically vote for him in a few months. I don't care that he's technically a felon. I'm sure he's gonna get that verdict overturned because the court's behavior was absurd. Even progressive lawyers note the appealable **** that the court did.I engage with different posters here on different levels...and with very good reason: I am operating in hostile territory.
There are a handful of posters here who regularly bring perspective and insight that challenge my own perspectives, and I routinely engage enthusiastically and in good faith with those posters…you are one of them, along with Chip, FoZoe, JettaKnight, GFGT, KLB, HKFan, and about a dozen others. I feel relatively comfortable dropping my defenses when I reply to you and these other posters.
As far as being here to understand Trumpers: that is absolutely true, but…there is some nuance to this position.
First, I recognize that “Trumpers” is a vague definition with limited utility...there are degrees of “Trumpiness”.
There are the more reluctant Trump voters...the nose-holders…the voters who don’t like Trump, but view him as the lesser of two awful choices. They might not like or agree with many of his positions and policies, but they see the only other choice they have as the much worse one…I don’t view this group with doubt or suspicion, and it pretty accurately mirrors my opinion of Biden. I am always willing to discuss topics in good faith with this poster…eager, even.
Then there are the Trump supporters…these people are not holding their nose, they see Trump as a desirable choice (not least worst), and agree with at least some of his positions and policies. I don’t understand this position, but I don’t think it is necessarily unreasonable and I am happy to engage in good faith with these posters so long as they show a willingness to do the same.
Finally, there are the Trump Cultists…these posters are devoted apologists who trade in absurdity. They get from me exactly what they give…if they want good faith from me they need to act in good faith themselves, otherwise…it’s just an invitation to the troll olympics.
Most rich and famous people end up having to settle these cases. Gold diggers everywhere. Did Trump rape those women? Or did they just claim he did because they want some of his money?
The recent case was absurd. She claimed it happened decades earlier. Her evidence was primarily two friends who said Trump sexually assaulted them too. I don't think that's enough to award a potential gold digger, that kind of money.
I don't hate Trump. I wouldn't say I'm a supporter per se, other than I will apologetically vote for him in a few months. I don't care that he's technically a felon. I'm sure he's gonna get that verdict overturned because the court's behavior was absurd. Even progressive lawyers note the appealable **** that the court did.
About Trump on morality. He's obviously promiscuous, and I suspect some of the stories could be true. I strongly suspect he ****ed the horse faced porn star. And at the time his wife was either pregnant, or had just delivered his son. So that makes Trump pretty horrible as a person, and especially as a husband.
If we're going to compare personal attributes and rank them, pedo is much worse than a rich playboy fondling women at his whim. Women should fight back. Should press charges. I get the issues with that. The lawyers that will make her feel small. On the other hand, golddiggers line up to cash in. How do we know when the accusation is real unless we see the evidence. It's just unfortunate that the real victims can't get justice. But we can't just believe all women.
Okay, so Trump on policy. When he ran in 2016, I kept saying I was gonna write in Al Bundy for POTUS, because I couldn't vote for that Clinton ****. And I didn't want to vote for Trump. I thought he was going to be an authoritarian leader. Well. I ended up voting for him because it really was a binary. Vote for the immoral, possibly authoritarian Trump. Or vote for one of the most corrupt political families in US history. I picked Trump as the least evil.
Turned out I actually agreed with most of his policies. I am conservative. I am for America First. I strongly disapprove on his moral behavior. I agree with him on his immigration policy. I agree with him on his foreign policy. I disagree with his handling of his election loss. He shouldn't have listened to half baked legal theorists.
So I'm unsure what category you would put me in, and not that I care. But for your own definitions, maybe they need tweaked a bit. I'm not really holding my nose. I'd rather have had someone else. But I think at this point, Trump is in a better position now to send Biden off to the old pedo's home.
Democrats are in trouble. More than half the country doesn't trust them. They're obviously engaged in lawfare. They don't have a viable candidate. Obviously Biden can't possibly lead. A recent poll came out that said 80% of voters say Biden is too old to be President. But he's not stepping down. Not that he's of any sound mind to make that decision anyway. It's the family wanting to keep the gravy train running.
Without Biden, who do you got? Sounds like Kuntala. She's not quite as brain dead as Biden. She's not retarded. Given what she's written and judging from the complexity of her speeches, I'd estimate she probably is close to 100 IQ. Trump is probably 125. Anyway, people hate her. Many on the left hate her because she's a cop. If she runs top of the ticket, I think Trump will gain even more of the black vote. Only way D's should win is if they can get illegals to vote.
When it comes down to it, unless someone is a genuine moderate, it's all about policy. Trump's evil to D's. Biden's evil to R's. But the crux is ideology and policy. But, progressives do seem to like to feign moral high ground.I find it LAUGHABLE that lefty libs want to try to hang any "moral" arguments around the Republicans necks.
Tara Reade wants to have a word.
We heard all throughout the clinton - marion barry years that character doesn't matter to demoncrats.
Too late to unring that bell.
It's parallel to the 'panhandler problem', with so many asking for money how do you tell those really in need from the the lazy griftersHow do we know when the accusation is real unless we see the evidence. It's just unfortunate that the real victims can't get justice. But we can't just believe all women.
Only way D's should win is if theycan get illegals to vote[manufacture fraudulent votes in every manner possible, like they did last time]