I think it's not a bad idea to notify the state so that local EPA officials are aware. I don't know that it would have changed anything. Likely the same decisions that were made would be made either way and likely with the same timing.What difference would a notification ahead of time have made?
So we want to add useless red tape to things?I think it's not a bad idea to notify the state so that local EPA officials are aware. I don't know that it would have changed anything. Likely the same decisions that were made would be made either way and likely with the same timing.
I still say the problem is based in crony capitalism, defined as running a company for the benefit of stockholders, as opposed to its founding vision/current mission statement (that doesn't involve stockholders).Outlandish fines for contamination is the best answer. When the threat of fining them out of business is hanging over their head, it changes their attitude. Being able to go after corporate performance bonuses and stock options would also help.
I'm not advocating for it. I said I didn't think it would hurt. Not hurting isn't a grand reason to do something.So we want to add useless red tape to things?
Sounds like more useless "we have to do something!"
Wouldn't fly, as Bug stated it's federal. There were states that made it illegal for a non moving train to block a street for more than x amount of time, IN was one of them IIRC. Several courts have shot them down. There is a case that is possibly heading to SCOTUS regarding it.Ohio governor says there is no federal law that the railroads have to notify the state there are hazardous materials on a train...
He's the damn governor, he could of had a law for his own state..the guy is republican and signs laws all the time. Seems it doesn't matter what political party you're from, they are all idiots!!
Yep.Interstate commerce clause federalizes that issue. Legislature could make the law, governor could sign it and it wouldn't last 3 months
You might be able to do it for hazmat that has a destination in your state but not those passing through
Best I can find out there are about 2.2 million rail cars hauling chemicals a year, that's about 4-6% of all rail cars. You think that the locals would be able to keep up with and track each one?I think it's not a bad idea to notify the state so that local EPA officials are aware. I don't know that it would have changed anything. Likely the same decisions that were made would be made either way and likely with the same timing.
First, I don't think that is what crony capitalism is.I still say the problem is based in crony capitalism, defined as running a company for the benefit of stockholders, as opposed to its founding vision/current mission statement (that doesn't involve stockholders).
The first people paid, should be the ones that need to care, and paid enough to care, and if there's anything left the owners/stockholders get some, after reinvestment in the companies mission is met.
Coming from someone who owns multiple small businesses, and has been running some kind of business for more of his life than not.
I suppose you’ve read what I said and what I didn’t say.Best I can find out there are about 2.2 million rail cars hauling chemicals a year, that's about 4-6% of all rail cars. You think that the locals would be able to keep up with and track each one?
You are correct about my use of the term crony capitalism. That would be collusion between private and gov’t entities, at the least.First, I don't think that is what crony capitalism is.
Second, what you described though is how any large public company is run. The first people paid are the ones that have to care, the CEOs and other leadership. They are the ones that run the business to make the owners happy. Today that happiness tends to come from a higher stock price. Companies don't think long term much, because Wall Street is about instant gratification.
It's really kind of sad watching it from inside.
I read what you said. Just giving my opinion. I agree it wouldn't necessarily be bad, just don't think it would do any good at least in most cases.I suppose you’ve read what I said and what I didn’t say.
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Getting a ROV or a team to quickly get in and out with small charges I would assume would be a lower risk to first responders. Failure to keep those tanks cool enough would be a huge problem. BLEVEs are no joke. And with tanks that big, you can kiss everything (and more importantly everyone) within a 1/4 mile goodbyeThe thing that continues to bother me is, if it was a safe enough environment to use breaching charges on the cars with vinyl chloride, why wasn't that same environment safe enough to cool the cars with water until it would be safe to pump off the product instead of having an open air burn
I'm afraid the most likely answer is they were more worried about getting the tracks open again as quickly as possible than they were worried about anyone in harm's way
The thing that continues to bother me is, if it was a safe enough environment to use breaching charges on the cars with vinyl chloride, why wasn't that same environment safe enough to cool the cars with water until it would be safe to pump off the product instead of having an open air burn
I'm afraid the most likely answer is they were more worried about getting the tracks open again as quickly as possible than they were worried about anyone in harm's way