but they have never asked to see my ammo or tested it with a magnet
Zimm here's something you might consider implementing to help avoid this issue in the future.
Rather than forced searches, maybe you could ask folks to declare the ammo they intend to use before they hit the range. You then mark them with a uniquely identifiable sticker of some sort (bright color, odd shape, etc). That would be a quick way to visually "sort" people's ammo choices when they are on the firing line. It would also give you a chance to veto non-allowable ammo.
Its not perfect but at least it would get people thinking about their ammo choices when using your range.
Oh then you have never worked retail before.
People tend to surprise designers/computer coders by doing things that nobody ever thinks they will do. That is why it's so hard to code AI.
Glad you added that extra safety to the design to ensure everyone's safety "outside" the bldg.
Good idea. The procedure that we do now is: if they do not buy the ammo from us we ask to see what ammo they plan to use in order to make sure it is frangible. I think what is happening is they either have another mag of ammo or another box of ammo in their bag and when they run out of frangible decide to shoot what they have in the bag.
Regular ammo is annoying but does not damage the range but is potentially hazardous to the other shooters. AP rounds are another matter. If one round gets out of the range I am shutdown not to mention the possibility of someone getting hurt driving by or in the offices across the street which of course is unacceptable. I am in a very bad position. I have to insure with 100% certainty that no rounds will get out of this range. At the same time I want to be trusting and not be forced to draconian actions of searching every bag of someone who wants to shoot rifles on the tactical range. I just can't see any other way to make sure there aren't any AP rounds. I don't know. I found out about this almost 14 hours ago when I got to the range this morning. I am still at the range and still just as angry. This morning I was angry about the damage. Now I am even angrier about what I have to do to insure it doesn't happen again.
If one round gets out of the range I am shutdown not to mention the possibility of someone getting hurt driving by or in the offices across the street which of course is unacceptable. I am in a very bad position. I have to insure with 100% certainty that no rounds will get out of this range.
IMO possible, but no excuse. I don't know what it means. What do I do? I ask at the counter to verify if my ammo is OK to use. Why? because I am responsible and I would like to return. Not to mention I respect other's property.Sorry for the situation for you and your patrons..
Could it be that the idiot doesn't know what "frangible" means...
Was this true tungsten core 5.56 ap? That stuff is scarce as unicorn farts, in fact I don't know that I've ever run across any. I have a hard time buying that someone was shooting m955 and didn't know it. In fact, I would guess that if it was m955 the odds are it was stolen from a military base.
Best,
Joe
Is the ceiling made of concrete also? Just wondering what keeps a round from going through the roof.
Sorry to hear about the moronic idiot that shot your range up.
ah...I wonder where one would get an AP rifle round
Yeah, and burn that SOB down! What a POS!! Hows that for acronyms haha!Is there anyway at all that you can review security footage to determine who it was?
-J-