To Mask or Not to Mask?

[cg21]

Where is the science that shows wearing masks for prolonged periods of time does not have an adverse affect on your health???

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Did I just wander into the OC vs CC debate thread?

Lol you just opened a can of worms. Guaranteed someone is gonna chime in on the benefits of one vs the other now

 

[nonobaddog]

Did I just wander into the OC vs CC debate thread?

It doesn't have to be one vs the other. If you do both you can carry more guns. ;-)

 

[JettaKnight]

Ya... because damn those “mye rights” people... they’re some horrible people that should be avoided at all costs... amirite?

They might be specifically looking for a reason to fight.

"I'm not going to wear a mask and punch the first person tells me too!"


I mean, there's just as many ancedotal stories and videos of anti-maskers as there are of mask-martinets.
Plus, what is the expected outcome of such and interaction? The likelihood of me saying, "Excuse me, but you should be wearing a mask" getting a positive response is infinitesimal.


EDIT: I wasn't exactly trying to be dismissive or derogitory in my post, but you said it yourself Hatin: you think not wearing a mask is your right.

You forgot the purple.

I wouldn’t exactly use Korea and Germany as an example of “doing it right”. Their citizens obviously don’t have an understanding of freedom, based on history.

How so? Who has a better grasp on the value of freedom and one whose had it and lost it? I bet if I had to walk to work for a week, I'd certain value my car a lot more, hence working hard to preserve it.

 

[JettaKnight]

Agree 100%.

It would be nice if we could all at least agree that anyone exercising their rights is a good thing, regardless if you like how they’re doing so.

As soon as they stop pretending that spreading virii is a right, and clinging to idea that by not wearing a mask they are the preventing America from becoming Communist.

And the non-snarky answer is, defying a lawful order from the Governor is not "exercising their rights."

 

[nonobaddog]

As soon as they stop pretending that spreading virii is a right, and clinging to idea that by not wearing a mask they are the preventing America from becoming Communist.

And the non-snarky answer is, defying a lawful order from the Governor is not "exercising their rights."

You seem to be assuming the order is lawful.

 

[JettaKnight]

You seem to be assuming the order is lawful.

We've been over this ad nauseum.

 

[Sylvain]

Where is the science that shows wearing masks for prolonged periods of time does not have an adverse affect on your health???

Health care workers have been wearing masks for 12+ hours a day without problems.

Folks working in construction have been wearing N95/dust masks for hours a day.

The adverse effects on your health comes from NOT wearing masks in those professions, and many others.

What's next? You need a study to show hard hats are not bad for your hair before you start wearing one on a job site?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Hell, I remember when this first started we were told if we wore masks we were killing doctors and nurses. Now we are told we have to wear 2, and stores are selling masks with logos and phrases on them as a fashion statement. At my annual dermatologist appointment (brother had melanoma so now i gotta be checked annually) he said he doesn’t think we will ever go back to going to hospitals or doctors offices without a mask, because now lawyers are involved and if they allow patients to come without masks and someone catches something they’ll be held liable. I told him if that’s the case I’ll just do virtual appointments and send him pictures of my moles for him to check.

I think all of INGO can agree on the toxic leadership. It was a debacle, this I stipulate to.

The fact that they screwed that up and then doubled down with the "now we say" made cynics of the people they needed to educate, and perhaps rightly so.

 

[nonobaddog]

What's next? You need a study to show hard hats are not bad for your hair before you start wearing one on a job site?

But hard hats are bad for your hair.

 

[nonobaddog]

I think all of INGO can agree on the toxic leadership. It was a debacle, this I stipulate to.

The fact that they screwed that up and then doubled down with the "now we say" made cynics of the people they needed wanted to educate control, and perhaps rightly so.

fixy

 

[Kirk Freeman]

That is a unique view of state government. At least I hope it is unique because it is so crazy.

The history of Indiana is replete with large outbreaks of disease, not just the Spanish Flu, but Black Cholera, small pox, polio, epizootic diseases (a la Covid-19), scarlet and yellow fever and many, many more. A great deal of the state budget was directed at disease suppression, including the criminal code for breaking quarantines.

The State Museum is an excellent resource to learn more. Another great museum is the Indiana Museum of Medical History. You can learn more about the assorted pandemics there.

IU Press has several solid books on the history of pandemics and the state government's response. I can recommend them if you are interested in learning more.

 

[CampingJosh]

I'd like to see INGO stop mocking freedom-oriented INGO as if they're all hicks.

I'd like to see "freedom-oriented INGO" acknowledge that the use of one's freedom cannot rightly interfere with others' freedom.

 

[JettaKnight]

But hard hats are bad for your hair.

That's why there's Gorilla Glue.

 

[SwikLS]

if the mask wearers want to up their game they could snort some Gorilla Glue up their noses and glue their mouths shut. that should do the trick. just sayin.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

As soon as they stop pretending that spreading virii is a right

Ok, I’ll bite. Prove to me, with scientific fact, that my not wearing a mask spreads the virus.

If that is true, wouldn’t areas that are predominantly anti mask have higher numbers of cases than those that are now double masking?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

They might be specifically looking for a reason to fight.

"I'm not going to wear a mask and punch the first person tells me too!"

So now we’re basing it off of “might”? Anyone at any time for any reason “might” be looking for a reason to fight. You think it’s not their right to make their own choice, I do. As a matter of fact, they “might” have a medical issue that prevents them from wearing a mask, and they also have a right to remain silent so they don’t need to give you that reason or explain it, if we wanna get into technicalities.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Ok, I’ll bite. Prove to me, with scientific fact, that my not wearing a mask spreads the virus.

If that is true, wouldn’t areas that are predominantly anti mask have higher numbers of cases than those that are now double masking?

Has anyone actually seen people double masking? Not the goons on TV putting on a show. I'm talking real life. I don't go out to the point of needing a mask except for the hospital and I haven't even seen it there. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just curious if anyone has actually seen it.

 

[JettaKnight]

So now we’re basing it off of “might”? Anyone at any time for any reason “might” be looking for a reason to fight. You think it’s not their right to make their own choice, I do. As a matter of fact, they “might” have a medical issue that prevents them from wearing a mask, and they also have a right to remain silent so they don’t need to give you that reason or explain it, if we wanna get into technicalities.

EXACTLY!

That's my point - I DO NOT CARE WHY. I choose to maintain my course and mind my own business.

 

[JettaKnight]

Has anyone actually seen people double masking? Not the goons on TV putting on a show. I'm talking real life. I don't go out to the point of needing a mask except for the hospital and I haven't even seen it there. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just curious if anyone has actually seen it.

Nope.