To Mask or Not to Mask?

[SheepDog4Life]

LOL. Now I really needed that. Due to COVID, we did not do our family camp this year at a state park. So now we are doing it at our house, expecting 20 people or so. First time I've attempted something bigger than 4-5 people ever. I have laid pavers, spread 6 21 ton loads of gravel, set up a fire pit, bought a new grill (ok that's not a hardship), bought patio furniture to accommodate. Why today I even took my first ever delivery of a porta potty.

Next year they will all want 30 amp service.

I read all that and took away that you got to get a new grill!!! Post the win on the board, that's a great day! Maybe not birth of a child great, but close!

 

[Rookie]

What is the difference between KN95 and N95? I get the KN version free.

https://www.rollingstone.com/product-recommendations/lifestyle/n95-vs-kn95-masks-1044184/amp/


"N95 is the U.S. standard, and the KN95 is the China standard.” Because of this, only N95 masks are approved for health-care use in the United States, even though KN95 masks have many of the same protective properties."

 

[Chewie]

First actual evidence of a mask being harmful, scared mommy videos, notwithstanding.

https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/i...-9JYC6V_TuFPh1mqWPAGTCsFDdWuAD2EhjWX56D5ykars

He must have had evidence about Hillary and she found out!

 

[HoughMade]

...I find it more than a little weird that all of a sudden more conservative people have taken up the “sex slavery” cause when the best evidence seems to show it is not significantly more of a problem than it was decades ago...but we can, what? Use it to dismiss the ‘Rona...make a political point? I don’t get it. 30 years of ignoring and issue and now: BLAM it’s everywhere...with made up pseudo-facts for support...

My suspected "whataboutism" explanation for this seems to have some support.

https://www.truthorfiction.com/how-covid-19-triggered-a-savethechildren-child-trafficking-panic/

https://www.truthorfiction.com/do-800000-children-go-missing-each-year-in-the-united-states/

 

[Talkinghalls]

What is the difference between KN95 and N95? I get the KN version free.

https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/kn95s


Basically we (US) ran out of N-95's during the pandemic, and KN95's are cheaper to make and China has a stockpile of them.

 

[NKBJ]

Got a treated lumber project to jump into so plenty glad the N95's are on hand.

 

[actaeon277]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sharon-stone-sister-covid-19-non-mask-wearers-200123585.html
[h=1]Sharon Stone asks for prayers for sister who has COVID-19: 'One of you non-mask wearers did this'[/h]
Of course. that's the only possible reason.
or not.


I was going to quote some comments, but of course Yahoo has disabled all comments

 

[CampingJosh]

Got a treated lumber project to jump into so plenty glad the N95's are on hand.

Have you had your lumber for a very long time?

New treated lumber won't last nearly as long as the old stuff did, but it is dramatically less toxic. Arsenic isn't used anymore. And that change was made more than 15 years ago.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Unless you are really into just building a frame, Good luck of you dont already have the treated lumber. 5/4 and other decking materials are hard to come by. A buddy is trying to build his kids a fort in the woods. Has the frame up, but the project ground to a halt because there is a shortage of things smaller than 2" thick. And every time I wander down the treated lumber aisle all I see is >2" or uber expensive PVC decking. And hell, the PVC is still pretty light because apparently those that are insistent on proceeding, are switching to that stuff.

Somebody posted a tinfoil hat video about the shortage, but I had better things to do than watch that 45 minute rambling video. How long does it take to tell us what secret govt program is causing the issue?

 

[dudley0]

Unless you are really into just building a frame, Good luck of you dont already have the treated lumber. 5/4 and other decking materials are hard to come by. A buddy is trying to build his kids a fort in the woods. Has the frame up, but the project ground to a halt because there is a shortage of things smaller than 2" thick. And every time I wander down the treated lumber aisle all I see is >2" or uber expensive PVC decking. And hell, the PVC is still pretty light because apparently those that are insistent on proceeding, are switching to that stuff.

Somebody posted a tinfoil hat video about the shortage, but I had better things to do than watch that 45 minute rambling video. How long does it take to tell us what secret govt program is causing the issue?

From what I hear at the yards is that they deemed the mills non-essential, even tho the lumber yards were open. Add to that the fact that so many of the people that were not allowed to go to work decided to take on home renovation projects.

The local Lowes was booming with business. Got to the point I hated to go in there because of all the people. They were doing in two weeks what they did in a month for sales. It was crazy, and this was before the mask mandate.

 

[paintman]

My dad is a logger. Pallet logs are something you can always sell. As of now all the pallet places are not taking logs and most of the big sellers such as walnut have slowed dramatically. Mills just aren’t taking much right now and if they do you may wait weeks - months just to get paid for the load.

 

[jamil]

Unless you are really into just building a frame, Good luck of you dont already have the treated lumber. 5/4 and other decking materials are hard to come by. A buddy is trying to build his kids a fort in the woods. Has the frame up, but the project ground to a halt because there is a shortage of things smaller than 2" thick. And every time I wander down the treated lumber aisle all I see is >2" or uber expensive PVC decking. And hell, the PVC is still pretty light because apparently those that are insistent on proceeding, are switching to that stuff.

Somebody posted a tinfoil hat video about the shortage, but I had better things to do than watch that 45 minute rambling video. How long does it take to tell us what secret govt program is causing the issue?

It wasn’t the government. It was tree huggers. Spiking trees like they do. Setting fire to saw mills and lumber yards. I kinda think it’s stimulus + lockdown + home projects = mass buying the **** out of building products.

 

[HoughMade]

It wasn’t the government. It was tree huggers. Spiking trees like they do. Setting fire to saw mills and lumber yards. I kinda think it’s stimulus + lockdown + home projects = mass buying the **** out of building products.

Yeah. Sometimes people think: “just make more”, but when you have sized your operation for a predictable range of demand over decades of experience, you can’t just turn a knob and “make more”. This is particularly true when there are defined limits of harvesting and time required for treatment. Add to that the fact that this added demand will probably be temporary and it is not a good idea to invest in increased capacity.

It’s fascinating how one thing affects another and very few, if any would have predicted it.

 

[larcat]

We needed about 300 linear feet of treated 4*4 about 2 months ago. Took 2 weeks to find. Went to probably 8 big box stores and could never get anyone on the phone anywhere. Was right when people's stimulous checks were hitting, but still. It was pretty nuts.

 

[terrehautian]

I needed some more treated lumber to finish things and went to a non big box store (builders pro build). I went one day a few weeks ago and ordered a treated 2x4, treated 4x4, treated 2x6, and deck boards. They had it all and had it delivered the next day.

 

[johny5]

I stopped into the local pizza shop yesterday to pick up some food for the family. A barefooted customer in the lobby confronted me about not wearing a mask.

I asked him why he did not have anything on is feet.

"Oh, it's cool, man, I just came from the pool"

 

[wagyu52]

[video=youtube_share;pa6BlJlrL-k]https://youtu.be/pa6BlJlrL-k[/video]

 

[singlesix]

https://nypost.com/2020/08/19/swedens-tegnell-wearing-face-masks-may-be-very-dangerous/

Sweden's top medical professional warning about wearing masks

 

[SheepDog4Life]

https://nypost.com/2020/08/19/swedens-tegnell-wearing-face-masks-may-be-very-dangerous/

Sweden's top medical professional warning about wearing masks

If people only wear masks and stop doing the other things:

“Face masks can be a complement to other things when other things are safely in place,” he said. “But to start with having face masks and then think you can crowd your buses or your shopping malls — that’s definitely a mistake.”

 

[BugI02]

Sweden did none of the other things

Still better numbers than most of the rest of the EU with near zero current rate of new infections