To mask or not to mask....That is the question. Part II

[PistolBob]

Rashida Tlaib spotted dancing maskless at large indoor gathering in CDC 'orange' zone

Rep. Rashida Tlaib danced maskless next to members of a large indoor crowd during a wedding in a county where the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance calls for indoor masking.

www.foxnews.com

She one butt ugly woman, like most female democrats. I hopes she was fully clothed. Ewww.

 

[wtburnette]

She one butt ugly woman, like most female democrats. I hopes she was fully clothed. Ewww.

She's among the few I wish would mask permanently.

 

[printcraft]

She's among the few I wish would mask permanently.

I have a suggestion...

 

[d.kaufman]

I have a suggestion...

Plastic bag nice and tight would be preferable

 

[rhamersley]

Plastic bag nice and tight would be preferable

And a zip tie…

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I ain't most people..you oughta know that by now.

Not enough info to know if I have an issue

Then the point it made wasn’t for you

 

[jamil]

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Well. Okay. But my only question is, is that ramp thing on the carrier for doing tricks off the deck? If it is, that's pretty cool of the Brits to go through the expense and all for sailor morale.

 

[jamil]

I guess we'll have disagree on the "control" part.

not worth arguing, IMHO.

Do you think they're being honest about masks?

 

[nonobaddog]

Well. Okay. But my only question is, is that ramp thing on the carrier for doing tricks off the deck? If it is, that's pretty cool of the Brits to go through the expense and all for sailor morale.

I think that ramp thing is to help the Boeing 747-8 airliners get airborne a little higher during takeoff.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Well. Okay. But my only question is, is that ramp thing on the carrier for doing tricks off the deck? If it is, that's pretty cool of the Brits to go through the expense and all for sailor morale.

Title says “Covid RAMPant”. So yes.

 

[jamil]

Okay, if I was in the target age group and/or had multiple comorbidities, I might wear the mask if I was worried. That would be my personal decision. As my not wearing a mask doesn't affect you, especially considering it's been shown the masks don't work, then why should anyone be forced to wear a mask? THAT is the control part.

I read something early on when this whole thing started, posted by a Doctor. He said that he was a cancer Doc, treating something like Leukemia or something. He said when the patients were undergoing therapy, their immune systems were compromised, so they were advised to protect themselves by wearing a mask when out in public, wash their hands often, etc. He said what they didn't do was go to the neighborhood the patient lived in to tell everyone that they must mask or do anything special, for the health of the patient. What the politicians are doing now for COVID is like the latter example, which makes no sense.

It looks to me like there are limited scenarios where a cloth mask would be helpful. The one that comes most to mind is someone who has covid is talking to you in close proximity for under few minutes. If they're wearing a mask, at least they're not spitting on you while they're talking. Getting spewed by virus droplets can infect you.

But if it's a long conversation, it's probably not gonna matter anyway, because you'll get enough aerosolized virus that gets through the mask to infect you. Other than that, the mask isn't going to prevent the wearers from infecting people that they wouldn't infect anyway. N95's, different story, if they're worn correctly, which they're not.

It's amazing how many mask Nazis who wear dingy dirty masks for days and days, and they're around their chins anyway.

Wife saw some stock boy the other day at the grocery store who took his mask off to sneeze. I don't blame him. Who wants a hocker smeared all over his face all day?

 

[jamil]

Title says “Covid RAMPant”. So yes.

That answer just gets a like all day long.

 

[MCgrease08]

Hamilton Southern Schools just went mandatory masks. No public input. No board meeting. Just the superintendent deciding on her own and sending out an email to parents on a Friday at 4:00 pm. Freaking cowards.

I am heated.

 

[chipbennett]

Hamilton Southern Schools just went mandatory masks. No public input. No board meeting. Just the superintendent deciding on her own and sending out an email to parents on a Friday at 4:00 pm. Freaking cowards.

I am heated.

And what if you refuse to comply?

 

[actaeon277]

Time to tell the superintendent that it is not within her purview.

 

[jsx1043]

So, I just caught up on about five day’s worth of posts. I stepped away to do some in depth research and Intel analysis on some other subjects. Needless to say, I’m disheartened by what I returned to. While I don’t want to see an echo chamber and want to see rational, informed discussion, I’m seeing a disturbing facet of reality that is coming to light in our community here.

Name calling, shitposts, trolling and self-aggrandizing sophistry in some cases. I think (notice I said “think” and not “feel”) that we all are being manipulated by a circumstance that is clearly out of our own individual control. And that circumstance is being used by anyone who can twist and bend the data (what factual, trustworthy data there is) towards their own ends.

What I know is this: What is being done by all this manipulation is a direct erosion of our individual sovereignty and our natural rights. The manipulation has granted whole governments, elected officials, bureaucrats, the “morally superior” and ultra wealthy individuals the ability to lord over free citizens in a nation that is supposed to be protected by laws against just such behavior, and by falling for it, we are simply falling deeper into the abyss of true oppression. It may not be evident on it’s face, but anyone who takes the time to critically analyze the micro steps being taken can see the probable macro result.

What’s missing these days is what the old farmers called “horse sense.” The instinct that tells you when something isn’t right. For many of us, and I would likely say the majority of us here, we’ve had a horse sense about the world around us for last 5-10 years, and mostly like a lot longer for our more seasoned members. I think that most of us know deep down that something isn’t right and we can (and have) point out all of the little details that confirm the reason for the little hairs on the back of our neck to stand up.

We are being played.

Black/white, legal/illegal, mask/no mask, shot/no shot, DNA/gene therapy, riot/peaceful protest, Trump/Biden, democrat/republican, rich/poor... These are all things meant to divide and distract us while the real moves are being made. What is going on is a struggle for power and ideology. And it is not a new occurrence. This same struggle has been occurring since the dawn of man, it’s only the tools and technology that change. And that’s the reason we face the current onslaught of our rights and liberties that we are experiencing today. None of those people in positions of power actually care about you as a person. They only care about what you can do for them. These little devices in our hands have connected us to the rest of the world at the speed of a “send” button. The sharing of ideas and communication amongst the masses is a dangerous prospect for those who wish to maintain or assert their power. Words and phrases have real power, only behind the power of force, which is why the freedom of speech is placed higher than the freedom to protect yourself against a tyrannical government. Words and phrases are being hurled like diseased heads over castle walls in order to infect the populace with ideas and notions that perpetuate this cycle of tyranny and control by the powerful.

In the end, it doesn’t matter what we think, who’s side we’re on, or what magic words we say. Those with power will always lord over those that don’t: Antifa will attack Christians in the park, exercising their first amendment rights; BLM will destroy minority-owned small businesses; the courts will release the dregs of society to continue to wreak havoc and intimidate; the federal government will pass laws shoving our children’s children into insurmountable debt and servitude to oppressive laws and regulations; our school boards will continue to indoctrinate and subjectify our smallest and most innocent citizens; our rights will be eroded one-by-one in ever-increasing efficiency until we can no longer speak our minds, protect ourselves, pray as we like or remain free from the iron fist in the velvet glove of the powerful, even in our own homes.

Every year, every month, we are less free than our forefathers envisioned and fought to provide us. As long as we are divided and provide no resistance to those with the power to control our lives through servitude and never-ending debt, regulation and taxes, all of the men, women and children who died along the way for us to get to this point, will have been for nothing. Freedom isn’t free, and it isn’t easy to maintain. It takes steadfast courage, discipline and moral ethic to keep in place. As we sit idly by, staring into our phones and arguing over minutiae that provides no real measure of maintaining those freedoms, those in power just sit back and laugh at us, partying in their tents with the rest of the “sophisticated, vaccinated crowd” and collect their revenue from our latest Amazon purchase. Meanwhile we toil at work, wearing a mask that hides our identity and rubbing our arm from the shot that somehow we were forced to get to remain working for a company that doesn’t care about us, for a dollar that buys less groceries this week than it did last week, and so we can make enough money to pay for the upcoming mileage tax on the car that we paid insanely too much for, fueled by the oil money that our government paid to a foreign country that hates us and conspires to destroy our way of life.

Yes, yes...keep arguing about masks and vaccines, prove that each one of us is individually right gosh darn it! I have to be right! There’s someone wrong on the internet! You know what we haven’t done? Sat together in a tavern and drank, next to a brother or sister, saw their face, felt their pain, embraced them in their time of need. We’ve all lost the context of what it means to be human, as we stare into these little magic boxes, thinking we are connecting to the world.

We’ve had many warnings from those who came before us: Aurelius, Paine, Jefferson, Franklin, Orwell, Alinsky, Mao, Solzhenitsyn...yet we never heed the words. And based on some of the discourse here, I’m afraid we never will.

 

[bobzilla]

And what if you refuse to comply?

They are sent home. Spouse of an HSE teacher here. She learned from a parent and not the school. That’s how cowardly it was.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[churchmouse]

So, I just caught up on about five day’s worth of posts. I stepped away to do some in depth research and Intel analysis on some other subjects. Needless to say, I’m disheartened by what I returned to. While I don’t want to see an echo chamber and want to see rational, informed discussion, I’m seeing a disturbing facet of reality that is coming to light in our community here.

Name calling, shitposts, trolling and self-aggrandizing sophistry in some cases. I think (notice I said “think” and not “feel”) that we all are being manipulated by a circumstance that is clearly out of our own individual control. And that circumstance is being used by anyone who can twist and bend the data (what factual, trustworthy data there is) towards their own ends.

What I know is this: What is being done by all this manipulation is a direct erosion of our individual sovereignty and our natural rights. The manipulation has granted whole governments, elected officials, bureaucrats, the “morally superior” and ultra wealthy individuals the ability to lord over free citizens in a nation that is supposed to be protected by laws against just such behavior, and by falling for it, we are simply falling deeper into the abyss of true oppression. It may not be evident on it’s face, but anyone who takes the time to critically analyze the micro steps being taken can see the probable macro result.

What’s missing these days is what the old farmers called “horse sense.” The instinct that tells you when something isn’t right. For many of us, and I would likely say the majority of us here, we’ve had a horse sense about the world around us for last 5-10 years, and mostly like a lot longer for our more seasoned members. I think that most of us know deep down that something isn’t right and we can (and have) point out all of the little details that confirm the reason for the little hairs on the back of our neck to stand up.

We are being played.

Black/white, legal/illegal, mask/no mask, shot/no shot, DNA/gene therapy, riot/peaceful protest, Trump/Biden, democrat/republican, rich/poor... These are all things meant to divide and distract us while the real moves are being made. What is going on is a struggle for power and ideology. And it is not a new occurrence. This same struggle has been occurring since the dawn of man, it’s only the tools and technology that change. And that’s the reason we face the current onslaught of our rights and liberties that we are experiencing today. None of those people in positions of power actually care about you as a person. They only care about what you can do for them. These little devices in our hands have connected us to the rest of the world at the speed of a “send” button. The sharing of ideas and communication amongst the masses is a dangerous prospect for those who wish to maintain or assert their power. Words and phrases have real power, only behind the power of force, which is why the freedom of speech is placed higher than the freedom to protect yourself against a tyrannical government. Words and phrases are being hurled like diseased heads over castle walls in order to infect the populace with ideas and notions that perpetuate this cycle of tyranny and control by the powerful.

In the end, it doesn’t matter what we think, who’s side we’re on, or what magic words we say. Those with power will always lord over those that don’t: Antifa will attack Christians in the park, exercising their first amendment rights; BLM will destroy minority-owned small businesses; the courts will release the dregs of society to continue to wreak havoc and intimidate; the federal government will pass laws shoving our children’s children into insurmountable debt and servitude to oppressive laws and regulations; our school boards will continue to indoctrinate and subjectify our smallest and most innocent citizens; our rights will be eroded one-by-one in ever-increasing efficiency until we can no longer speak our minds, protect ourselves, pray as we like or remain free from the iron fist in the velvet glove of the powerful, even in our own homes.

Every year, every month, we are less free than our forefathers envisioned and fought to provide us. As long as we are divided and provide no resistance to those with the power to control our lives through servitude and never-ending debt, regulation and taxes, all of the men, women and children who died along the way for us to get to this point, will have been for nothing. Freedom isn’t free, and it isn’t easy to maintain. It takes steadfast courage, discipline and moral ethic to keep in place. As we sit idly by, staring into our phones and arguing over minutiae that provides no real measure of maintaining those freedoms, those in power just sit back and laugh at us, partying in their tents with the rest of the “sophisticated, vaccinated crowd” and collect their revenue from our latest Amazon purchase. Meanwhile we toil at work, wearing a mask that hides our identity and rubbing our arm from the shot that somehow we were forced to get to remain working for a company that doesn’t care about us, for a dollar that buys less groceries this week than it did last week, and so we can make enough money to pay for the upcoming mileage tax on the car that we paid insanely too much for, fueled by the oil money that our government paid to a foreign country that hates us and conspires to destroy our way of life.

Yes, yes...keep arguing about masks and vaccines, prove that each one of us is individually right gosh darn it! I have to be right! There’s someone wrong on the internet! You know what we haven’t done? Sat together in a tavern and drank, next to a brother or sister, saw their face, felt their pain, embraced them in their time of need. We’ve all lost the context of what it means to be human, as we stare into these little magic boxes, thinking we are connecting to the world.

We’ve had many warnings from those who came before us: Aurelius, Paine, Jefferson, Franklin, Orwell, Alinsky, Mao, Solzhenitsyn...yet we never heed the words. And based on some of the discourse here, I’m afraid we never will.

You have won the internet for the day.

 

[jsx1043]

You have won the internet for the day.

LOL, thank you sir. It’s just from the heart, and the gut. No internet points, no karma, likes, retweets or whatnot needed.

The title of the thread, “To mask or not to mask...that is the question,” is really no question at all. Are you a free man, free to make choices about your individual sovereignty, or are you a slave to a system which cares not about you?

If my life henceforth is predicated upon whether or not I have to wear a mask, or get the “jab” or speak the correct words to live in “polite society,” then society is no longer polite. If I have to bend to the will of another who in any way encroaches upon my sovereignty granted by our supreme law of the land, endowed by our Creator, then I am no longer “free.” While I recognize the difference between rights, liberties and freedoms, they are not mutually exclusive - but they
absolute - only if we fight to keep them.

They want me to wear a mask? I’ve fought too long and too hard, lost pieces of my soul and my heart, bled to hold the line and keep the stripes on the flag red. If I put on a mask, they’re not going to like what they see when it comes off.

Frankly, I’m shocked that I seem to be one of the few who have that spirit in me.