Twangbanger
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- Oct 9, 2010
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So are we going into denial mode now?
Nope...we're just going into "you need to back up the crap you say" mode.
-Twang (aced English class)
So are we going into denial mode now?
Nope...we're just going into "you need to back up the crap you say" mode.
-Twang (aced English class)
"Who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?"
-DT
"If Black lives don't matter, then go back to Africa"
-DT
Whites killed by Blacks - 81% (via Twitter)
-DT
Nevermind it then. I'm too lazy to do that.... speaking of.....
"Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that"
-DT
Wrong about what? There isn't some magic number of comments that will either one of us right or wrong. The point being, the repeated rhetoric, by Trump, is telling. If one can't see the similarities in the comments, the REPEATED, comments, then one simply isn't paying attention. What some people say in their homes is one thing, to say it publicly quite another. I'd only have to hear such language ONCE, to determine whether a person is worth my time and support. Trump, like Sharpton, has a history of this type of language, and those that follow either, simply put, have drank the kool-aid of racial divisiveness.... and probably buy completely into whatever snake oil they're selling.
I'll give you this. One of those quotes is actually racist. It's the one he didn't actually say.
This is true. I had a couple of dozen queued up. I imagine you do too. And then I'll have to spend oodles of time verifying that Trump actually said those things. And I imagine you're not going to take my word for it either. At least we agree on one thing. Neither of us contend that Sharpton isn't a race baiter.
The contention is whether Trump is the white equivalence of Al Sharpton. The implication for you seems to be all Trump supporters are immoral. I think that's projecting. There are admittedly some similarities. But Trump =/= Sharpton. And there are many reasons why Trump supporters support him. Most of those aren't because of racism.
I will say this though, that people who do support Trump because they think he's offering a sort of supreme white hope, yes, those people are morally corrupt. But that's not the main reason people support him. But having listened to so many of them, that's just not the main motivator. Most seem to think that they're blowing up the establishment system. Some have just fallen for the con. For some, he's the default choice. Because they don't like any of the other choices, **** it. Roll the dice and hope he doesn't screw things up too bad.
I dunno. Maybe I'm naive and just don't know the code language of racists. I don't hang out with them.
In one way they are equivalent: They're all about themselves. Everything they do is to promote themselves, so that they're relavent in their chosen fields -- and they're using political hot-button issues to drive that promotion.
Yes. Indeed there are some similarities. Self promotion is one of them. Trying to say that all Trump supporters are morally corrupt is assuming a whole lot about why people follow him. I wouldn't say that everyone who supports Al Sharpton is morally corrupt because of that. They can be duped just like many of Trump's supporters are duped.
Trump's main thing isn't race. Trump seems happy to let people believe he's whatever they want him to be. Sharpton's whole shtick is race. Nothing but. Every day.
I'll give you this. One of those quotes is actually racist. It's the one he didn't actually say.
This is true. I had a couple of dozen queued up. I imagine you do too. And then I'll have to spend oodles of time verifying that Trump actually said those things. And I imagine you're not going to take my word for it either. At least we agree on one thing. Neither of us contend that Sharpton isn't a race baiter.
The contention is whether Trump is the white equivalence of Al Sharpton. The implication for you seems to be all Trump supporters are immoral. I think that's projecting. There are admittedly some similarities. But Trump =/= Sharpton. And there are many reasons why Trump supporters support him. Most of those aren't because of racism.
I will say this though, that people who do support Trump because they think he's offering a sort of supreme white hope, yes, those people are morally corrupt. But that's not the main reason people support him. But having listened to so many of them, that's just not the main motivator. Most seem to think that they're blowing up the establishment system. Some have just fallen for the con. For some, he's the default choice. Because they don't like any of the other choices, **** it. Roll the dice and hope he doesn't screw things up too bad.
I dunno. Maybe I'm naive and just don't know the code language of racists. I don't hang out with them.
Yes. Indeed there are some similarities. Self promotion is one of them. Trying to say that all Trump supporters are morally corrupt is assuming a whole lot about why people follow him. I wouldn't say that everyone who supports Al Sharpton is morally corrupt because of that. They can be duped just like many of Trump's supporters are duped.
Trump's main thing isn't race. Trump seems happy to let people believe he's whatever they want him to be. Sharpton's whole shtick is race. Nothing but. Every day.
Yes. Indeed there are some similarities. Self promotion is one of them. Trying to say that all Trump supporters are morally corrupt is assuming a whole lot about why people follow him. I wouldn't say that everyone who supports Al Sharpton is morally corrupt because of that. They can be duped just like many of Trump's supporters are duped.
Trump's main thing isn't race. Trump seems happy to let people believe he's whatever they want him to be. Sharpton's whole shtick is race. Nothing but. Every day.
If you aced English, then you probably did a fair bit of research.... put it to use, if you doubt the validity.
On May 1, 1989, Donald J. Trump took out full-page advertisements in four New York newspapers calling for the return of the death penalty. Mr. Trump said he wanted the ''criminals of every age'' who were accused of beating and raping a jogger in Central Park 12 days earlier ''to be afraid.''
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Carol Taylor, a writer and demonstrator at the recent rallies, was not surprised at Mr. Trump's recent comments. ''Of course he won't apologize, because he's a rich white colorist male who is wallowing in the unearned privilege of his white skin color,'' she said. On Monday, she held a sign that said: ''Donald Trump, don't be a chump. For dissing black boys so bad, where's your full-page apology ad?''
A protest is planned near the Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in Midtown on Sunday. ''I'll be there. I think I'll make my sign bigger,'' Ms. Taylor said.
Mr. Trump shrugged off the planned protest. ''I don't mind if they picket. I like pickets.''
...Trump's politics are those if racial divisiveness. Put a track suit on him, a tan, and a bad perm, and he's Al Sharpton.
Wow, the libs are really pushing this. Hoping it will stick...
It's stuck. He's your Sharpton.
Kut may be many things, but I don't really think of him as a liberal.Maybe stuck with the liberals as your new chant?
You liberal's biggest fear has not anything to do with your Sharpton creation. Moreover whether Donald Trump is the Republican's Barack Obama.
No, not really. This is the unique opportunity to see if people who rant and rave about others are as equally fallible. Donald Trump is leaning hard on racial divisiveness. He's using the same tactics as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. I don't get into debates about those two, because most things said about them are correct, and I refuse to support them.
But here we are America, and now there's a guy from the other side doing the exact same thing. This is your chance to prove that you're above the pettiness of Jackson and Sharpton, and reject Trump outright..... but as we all know, that's not happening, so what gives?
Kut may be many things, but I don't really think of him as a liberal.
And, Trump is much like Obama in terms of experience for the job. Arguably worse than Obama in that regard.
Can't say I disagree with this (below). This election cycle, if anything, is going to call for the need to clean house. Lot of people claiming to be conservative showing their true colors.
From John Ekdahl:
I don't think of him as a liberal either. I do think he likes to challenge typical beliefs. If he were on a site comprising mostly liberals I'd expect that he'd be challenging them.
That said, I do think his sensitivity to dog whistles and "code words" is kinda turned up a bit too high.