It is absolutely certain that CAFE standards affected what was built and how it was priced…What certainty are you ascribing?
It is absolutely certain that CAFE standards affected what was built and how it was priced…What certainty are you ascribing?
They did not stop producing cars that sold in large numbers because of CAFE standards.It is absolutely certain that CAFE standards affected what was built and how it was priced…
Just an example of the games the manufacturers have to play to meet regulations. There were a lot of wagons back in the day. Did you watch the video in the other thread?So it's only purpose was to cover for the less efficient trucks in their lineup. What is the point?
You guys remember a lot more wagons than I do.
That’s not the certainty you were talking about.It is absolutely certain that CAFE standards affected what was built and how it was priced…
They could shift those wagon buyers to minivans and SUV’s that were light trucks and meet the regulations easier. So they did stop producing cars that sold in large volume and had for decades.They did not stop producing cars that sold in large numbers because of CAFE standards.
There is a lot of certainty that what certainly did happen certainly had no affect on the certain outcome…That’s not the certainty you were talking about.
CAFE standards should be eliminated. Period. Station wagons would have died anyway. They deserve to die. So do minivans. But. On the subject of minivans, at least Lee Iacocca invented a better station wagon. Not a lot better but better. And not better enough that we should forgive him for the K car.Just an example of the games the manufacturers have to play to meet regulations. There were a lot of wagons back in the day. Did you watch the video in the other thread?
That’s not why Lee Iacocca came out with the minivan. The minivan was the station wagon people really wanted. People have very bad taste. Especially in the 80’s.They could shift those wagon buyers to minivans and SUV’s that were light trucks and meet the regulations easier. So they did stop producing cars that sold in large volume and had for decades.
They couldn't shift anything. People had to WANT to buy them. People bought Minivans over wagons, because they wanted minivans instead of wagons. Wagons didn't just disappear overnight. They were phased out because they weren't purchased. Just as Minivans are starting to be now.They could shift those wagon buyers to minivans and SUV’s that were light trucks and meet the regulations easier. So they did stop producing cars that sold in large volume and had for decades.
Sure they could. Marketing does not work? Shift=stop making the product push the replacement in marketing.They couldn't shift anything. People had to WANT to buy them. People bought Minivans over wagons, because they wanted minivans instead of wagons. Wagons didn't just disappear overnight. They were phased out because they weren't purchased. Just as Minivans are starting to be now.
That's a big carrot:
Biden admin. dangles $7.5B Tesla subsidy if Musk unlocks Supercharging network
Department of Transportation requirements for generous electric vehicle subsidies may pressure Tesla to open its proprietary charging stations to other models.www.foxbusiness.com
I thought maybe that article might be old, because Tesla has been making its network available for over a year. It's not an issue of being "locked". It's a technical. Tesla chargers were designed to charge Teslas, not every other EV make. It's been problematic getting the network to work with other EV's.That's a big carrot:
Biden admin. dangles $7.5B Tesla subsidy if Musk unlocks Supercharging network
Department of Transportation requirements for generous electric vehicle subsidies may pressure Tesla to open its proprietary charging stations to other models.www.foxbusiness.com
One of the big problems with EV's.Ford Suspended Production of 2023 F-150 Lightning After Fire in Vehicle Holding Lot
Production of the popular EV truck will be delayed until after February 23.jalopnik.com
The fleet is still really new but how they handle old age will be interesting to watch. When my Silverado has 200,000 miles on it, it kept running just fine. When that F150 gets up there, wonder what the resale value will be when, to keep it running, the new owner has to spend 10’s of thousands of dollars on a replacement battery.One of the big problems with EV's.
- fire hazard
- charge time, which limits use
- grid impact
- compatibility of charging stations