In the end, Its a minority of OCers who rip on CCers, and a minority vice versa.
Some of you people need to find something to do with your time.
Show me a post where an OCer rips on a CCer for the method of carry chosen.
That should give you something to do with your time. I hope you have plenty!
I agree that it's not really a debate at all. Mainly because there is next to NONE of these getting used in the discussion which are verifiable and quantifiable.I don't get why you keep pushing that? You know as well as I do some of the negative thoughts behind CC that have been expressed or implied through the years. Some say, and even you have joked about, the idea of "hiding your gun like a criminal". Its been said that your not proud of your 2a rights if you CC, Its been said that your more likely to be a victim (while at the same time, those people argue against the same idea if your OCing)
Ive heard people say, your wanting to bait and ambush people if your CC. Ive heard alot of implication that its just not manly to CC (as if carrying a firearm AT ALL, has anything to do with manliness.)
The last time you and I got into this, i posted something about it not being a 2 way street, and I stand behind that.
This is a 4 way street. This is two different things, the first is the individuals method of carry, the second is their opinion on the other method.
Meaning:
A group of CCers hate OC
A group of OCers hate CC
A group of CCers like OC
A group of OCers like CC
Its ignorant to have a two sided debate on this topic, when there are clearly 4 sides.
I'm tired of this crap. There's "a debate", where facts are stated, and people can learn, and then there's a place where a bunch of pent up argumentative people get together to start ****.
This is not a debate, its a bar brawl, or a dick measuring contest.
To the people reading this thread, who might have stumbled here, in pursuit of something productive: not all CCers hate OC, and not all OCers hate CC.
Get a firearm, train, get legal, carry it, and stay safe. How you carry is your business. Too many people have forgotten what humility is.
Crazy CC people are always so sensitive.
I didn't say all CC people are crazy. Just some. And they are the sensitive ones. You may be crazy but from what I've seen I wouldn't classify you as crazy in regards to CC.Im crazy.....
I CC.....
Sensitive......not so much
I imagine its just something to debate but when it comes down to the wire well all stick together.I'm just a guy who likes my right to carry however I want, and doesnt like to see people who are supposed to be on the same side, fighting about something that doesnt matter. I'm not attacking you, so there is no need to defend anything. I see both sides of the argument. Its too bad so many else cannot.
It's quite refreshing to see someone come in here and actually read the first post.
Most, you'll see, will jump right in and try to force their opinions on others without reading it or even giving other carry options a chance.
Everybody knows that their way is the ONLY way.....or else.
You know what just struck me?
That this is the Open Carry "Argument"...
I don't usually see OC'ers getting on CC'ers for CCing... So why is it our argument? lol.
It could always be worse, at least we don't have to put up with people on here trying to make it out like anyone who even thinks of carrying a firearm two steps outside of their house is some kind of mass murder supporter. I really wonder why I even bother to try and have civil discussions about this topic on Facebook anymore...I'm not saying it hasn't, but mostly you'll see it in jest. And only because the "Anti-Open Carryers" are so adamant with their perception of how everyone needs to carry. Or NOT carry.
It's just silliness how they behave.
I'm guilty of a little "rub" now and then. Mostly tired of their unwillingness to learn a new trick.
And I don't like being told what to do. (I was married once)