"Another common criticism of open carry is that the firearm itself will be the target of theft, prompting a criminal to attack simply to get the gun from you. Like the previous example of being the first one shot in a robbery, above, this is despite the fact that there is no credible evidence it happens."
I'm not planning to do anything. I'm not threatening to do anything. I didn't think anything I wrote would come off as a plan or a threat. I was just sharing a thought I have when I see some people open carrying. There are some people I see that don't spark that thought.
I apologize, when I read it the first time, I thought I read it with you saying you would/could do it.
As for CC vs OC getting targeted...
https://www.ammoland.com/2015/05/concealed-carry-failure-gun-stolen-during-robbery/
https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/06/29/concealed-carrier-texas-got-robbed-gun-worlds-dumbest-criminal/
https://concealednation.org/2015/09/concealed-means-concealed-ccer-robbed-of-gun-in-walmart-bathroom-in-opportunistic-theft/
With that said, did you read the OP?
I read the OP. The OP states that it simply isn't a concern worth troubling yourself over. I am making the argument that it is.
Stats and figures please.
Another common criticism of open carry is that the firearm itself will be the target of theft, prompting a criminal to attack simply to get the gun from you. Like the previous example of being the first one shot in a robbery, above, this is despite the fact that there is no credible evidence it happens.
If it was common it would be everywhere.
There are actually more recorded incidents of CC being disarmed.
Its not.I admire your confidence. I hope it is supported by your preparation for the task.
While we haven’t trained together that I know of, we’ve been to some of the same courses, and not knowing the quoted person, I can almost guarantee that this isn’t the case. I’ve taken ECQC twice when Craig was near, and didn’t meet a single INGO personality that would admit to it, save myself. I’ve almost got a callous on my forehead from his classes, but continue to listen to those who’ve never defended their OC’d gun or opinion outside of the keyboard?I admire your confidence. I hope it is supported by your preparation for the task.
Some of you come off as offended at the opinion I've shared. If you aren't carrying like I described and/or are putting in real work on retention skills, then you're not the people I'm talking about.
If you are those people carrying in cheap holsters, worn in indefensible positions, and not putting in real work to understand the problem, your internet bravado is not a good use of your effort.
While we haven’t trained together that I know of, we’ve been to some of the same courses, and not knowing the quoted person, I can almost guarantee that this isn’t the case. I’ve taken ECQC twice when Craig was near, and didn’t meet a single INGO personality that would admit to it, save myself. I’ve almost got a callous on my forehead from his classes, but continue to listen to those who’ve never defended their OC’d gun or opinion outside of the keyboard?
This makes sense to me. I have a friend who has a lot of rental properties and he carry’s in the open when he visits or works on his properties. He says this is more of a deterrent to thieves blatantly taking his tools etc right in front of him. I’m not so sure, seems you just become a target to me.
I'm not planning to do anything. I'm not threatening to do anything. I didn't think anything I wrote would come off as a plan or a threat. I was just sharing a thought I have when I see some people open carrying. There are some people I see that don't spark that thought.
Some of you come off as offended at the opinion I've shared. If you aren't carrying like I described and/or are putting in real work on retention skills, then you're not the people I'm talking about.
If you are those people carrying in cheap holsters, worn in indefensible positions, and not putting in real work to understand the problem, your internet bravado is not a good use of your effort.
The OP contained no stats or figures. Only the statement that there is no evidence it happens. You posted evidence that it happens. I posted a video of it happening.
Why is the burden on me to produce some stats? Where are the stats that open carry deters criminals? Who does those studies? Those weren't posted in the OP.
Again, I'm not saying don't open carry. I'm saying be aware of what is possible and take precautions. Youd think I told everyone to throw their guns away from the reactions I get.
On your first point: why produce stats? Because the plural of anecdote is not data.
On your second point: refer to John Lott's research.