The Open Carry Argument

[protias]

https://www.personaldefenseworld.co...645Z3ibhD4QZNgN9OapL28KusMHtbXKnYHFbMvf-_OvoA

Many states, including Wisconsin, allow open carry.

Sorry, no, WI doesn't allow OC, it just doesn't prohibit it, thereby not making it illegal to OC.

If a bad guy can’t see a gun, then he won’t know he can snatch that gun.

Wrong angle to take. If a criminal can't see a gun, that means the criminal thinks the person is a soft target and is more likely to attack the person.

If someone is committing a crime, the most likely person to step in is the one with a handgun on the hip.

Logical fallacy. If I'm OCing, I might stop the bad guy, or I might run away. Same could be said for someone CCing. Neither the OCer, nor CCer, want to see innocent people hurt.

Stay safe and aware, and leave open carry for when it makes sense in gun rights demonstrations.

False, the way to make people aware of RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS is to use that right. I would retort that this "author" should refrain from using the 1A to write anything so as to not "offend" anyone.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

If it isn’t illegal, doesn’t that mean they allow it? I guess I’m confused

 

[2A_Tom]

You look confused.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I get that a lot

 

[Dead Duck]

And, Sir what is your opinion of this anecdote?

Here is one, I am very close to a fellow that has carried openly thousands of hours and has never had this kind of interaction. He avoids places where he feels this type of thing could happen. He practices situational awareness when in proximity to others and is even on alert when he sees no one else around. He would never say that he is absolutely sure this could never happen, but works at not putting self in bad situations.

It is NOT a sign of mental illness to refer to yourself in the third person occasionally.

Dead Duck Agrees!

 

[protias]

If it isn’t illegal, doesn’t that mean they allow it? I guess I’m confused

If it were allowed, then it can then be taken away. WI state law has no prohibition to OC.

It would be like saying, WI allows you to walk down the street. The better way to say it, WI doesn't prohibit you to walk down the street.

 

[eldirector]

 

[actaeon277]

That took me a minute

 

[KLB]

That took me a minute

You're getting old.

 

[2A_Tom]

That took me a minute

You're getting old.

All I could see was there was no push plate on the ram and if it was a solid plate that wrapped around the I beam it would be impossible to install without completely disassembling the thing.

When I saw Act's post I went back to see what I had missed. Yes old, but I look at everything mechanically.

 

[mmpsteve]

Could someone please explain to me what the point is here. I'm lost here. I've read the responses. I understand the dynamics with the machine, just missing the obvious, as it relates to the thread title.

 

[2A_Tom]

Steve, thread jacks are common on INGO, quit splitting hares.

 

[mmpsteve]

Steve, thread jacks are common on INGO, quit splitting hares.

Aye, thanks. I either need to drink more, or less, of the Wild Turkey. But it's early ... but it is Christmas, so ... I'll figure it out! Merry Christmas, Sir.
P.s. Roll Tide !!

 

[KLB]

Steve, thread jacks are common on INGO, quit splitting hares.

Aye, thanks. I either need to drink more, or less, of the Wild Turkey. But it's early ... but it is Christmas, so ... I'll figure it out! Merry Christmas, Sir.
P.s. Roll Tide !!

LOL. He gave you the answer.

 

[cbhausen]

I got it immediately... good one.

 

[2A_Tom]

But without a ram plate it will just split his nose and shove the ram up his...

 

[JettaKnight]

If a bad guy can’t see a gun, then he won’t know he can snatch that gun.

That's why I OC an unloaded gun, but CC a loaded one.

 

[actaeon277]

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/...texas-got-robbed-gun-worlds-dumbest-criminal/
This Concealed Carrier In Texas Got Robbed Of His Gun By The World’s Dumbest Criminal

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/10/17/gun-control-supporter-steals-concealed-carriers-gun-shoots/
Gun Control Supporter Steals Concealed Carrier’s Gun, Shoots Him


https://www.ammoland.com/2015/05/concealed-carry-failure-gun-stolen-during-robbery/#axzz5aeFPhvpX
Concealed Carry Failure, Gun Stolen During Robbery



Happens to CCers also.

 

[protias]

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/...texas-got-robbed-gun-worlds-dumbest-criminal/
This Concealed Carrier In Texas Got Robbed Of His Gun By The World’s Dumbest Criminal

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/10/17/gun-control-supporter-steals-concealed-carriers-gun-shoots/
Gun Control Supporter Steals Concealed Carrier’s Gun, Shoots Him


https://www.ammoland.com/2015/05/concealed-carry-failure-gun-stolen-during-robbery/#axzz5aeFPhvpX
Concealed Carry Failure, Gun Stolen During Robbery



Happens to CCers also.

Clearly fake news. CCers are expert ninjas who have the element of surprise.

 

[Denny347]

If a criminal can't see a gun, that means the criminal thinks the person is a soft target and is more likely to attack the person.

OC is not on my list of things keeping someone from attacking me. Heck, plenty of uniformed police get attacked and they are as OC as you can get. If you look like a sheep and carry yourself like a sheep, displaying a handgun isn't likely going to change that. Displaying situational awareness and looking like a tough target regardless of visible weapon will keep riffraff away. But to each their own.