The ethics of a 161-2 girls basketball game

[churchmouse]

Every kid doesn't deserve a trophy and no team should be judged for whooping some ass. I guarantee there have been a lot more kids with hurt feelings from a good game lost than a complete blowout.

My son played on the team we fielded out of the Speedway youth league (Soccer) in the Hoosier games for the state title when he was 12. It was in the top 3 hardest fought games I have ever witnessed in youth soccer. Speedway lost by 1 goal in the final minute of regulation. He cried all the way home. He was on the goal.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Bad sportsmanship. There is such a thing as winning AND losing gracefully. The coach on the winning team could have easily spoken to the other coach at the half, and dictated terms of surrender. The losing team should have been asked to forfeit if things didn't get any better at the end of the 3rd quarter. If they refused, the leading team should have forfeited, and then appealed to the high school sports association to not count the game in the standings.

 

[jd4320t]

Bad sportsmanship. There is such a thing as winning AND losing gracefully. The coach on the winning team could have easily spoken to the other coach at the half, and dictated terms of surrender. The losing team should have been asked to forfeit if things didn't get any better at the end of the 3rd quarter. If they refused, the leading team should have forfeited, and then appealed to the high school sports association to not count the game in the standings.

Oh bs. When has that ever happened? Did you play sports?

 

[jbombelli]

Bad sportsmanship. There is such a thing as winning AND losing gracefully. The coach on the winning team could have easily spoken to the other coach at the half, and dictated terms of surrender. The losing team should have been asked to forfeit if things didn't get any better at the end of the 3rd quarter. If they refused, the leading team should have forfeited, and then appealed to the high school sports association to not count the game in the standings.

Lol. The winning team should forfeit and hand vicfory to the losing team because the losing team refuses to quit? Or ask to not count the game which could affect overall standings and maybe cost them a trip to the state championships (purely hypothetical)?

No.

If you're getting your ass kicked and you refuse to quit, you deserve nothing but more ass kicking. You don't deserve to be handed victory.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Oh bs. When has that ever happened? Did you play sports?

Football and Baseball.

This is sportsmanship...
http://www.sbnation.com/2014/10/24/...orfeits-football-game-league-title-to-support

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I'm sure the kids will learn a LOT from this lesson! Do your job too well, you could be suspended.

California girls high school basketball coach suspended two games after 161-2 win - ESPN Los Angeles

There are adults that feel this way about the business world too. "Big corporations don't NEED to make that much money! Penalize them!"

 

[ModernGunner]

Don't like the rules, don't play.

Life isn't 'fair', and it doesn't take it 'easy' on you because you're not prepared. You win some, you lose some, and some times the difference is striking.

Supposedly (and it simply is not true) sports help teach 'life lessons'. We hear coaches and players babble on endlessly about this. Such life lessons are never taught when the sport turns to whining about how 'unfair' it is.

Some folks are good at sports, some are not. If the individual can't 'cut the mustard' (and what does THAT mean, anyway, LOL?) then they should seek out something that they actually do well. We all have talents, but we all do not have a talent for the same thing.

Find what you do well, and allow others to do the same. This truly encourages each of us to find our 'place' in the world. That IS fair.

 

[Suprtek]

IMO, there's no difference between telling kids to not do there best and simply handing the ball to the other team. If you are going to alter the results of the game, you might as well do it openly. I would rather lose badly to a team that gave me their best than to have a better but still losing score in a game where I was patronized. Learning how to lose with dignity to a better team is just as important as learning how to be a winner. If those in charge wanted to avoid a situation like this, they should have had a mercy rule already in place (not that I agree with such a thing). This was a high school game. It is not uncommon to have college scouts at high school games. What if a player on the winning team was told to "hold back" while a scout was watching? Should that player be required to risk a potential scholarship in the name of political correctness? I don't know the rules of high school basketball in California, but it would seem to me that the problems creating this gross mismatch occurred long before this game ever took place. Suspending a coach for "excessive winning" just seems ludicrous to me unless he or she breaks the rules to do so.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Don't like the rules, don't play.

Life isn't 'fair', and it doesn't take it 'easy' on you because you're not prepared. You win some, you lose some, and some times the difference is striking.

Supposedly (and it simply is not true) sports help teach 'life lessons'. We hear coaches and players babble on endlessly about this. Such life lessons are never taught when the sport turns to whining about how 'unfair' it is.

Some folks are good at sports, some are not. If the individual can't 'cut the mustard' (and what does THAT mean, anyway, LOL?) then they should seek out something that they actually do well. We all have talents, but we all do not have a talent for the same thing.

Find what you do well, and allow others to do the same. This truly encourages each of us to find our 'place' in the world. That IS fair.

Amen. And life doesn't give you trophies just for participating.

 

[jd4320t]

Football and Baseball.

This is sportsmanship...
Washington high school forfeits football game, league title to support Marysville-Pilchuck - SBNation.com

And what does that have to do with anything? Did you read it? Or am I missing something?

 

[jd4320t]

Also, baseball and football can't be compared in this case. Baseball isn't timed and a team could ultimately run the score until they get three outs. I believe the run rule or mercy rule isn't used after little league. Basketball is timed and will eventually end.

 

[unshelledpilot]

Life isn't fair. Plain and simple.

I think it's wrong to suspend the winning coach, he just did his job. I can't speak to his training practices, but he's doing something right. There's also the flip side, the losing coach probably didn't push the kids in practice. That being said, if my kid was on the losing team, I would try and encourage them to take it as a life lesson. Sometimes you get your ass kicked, hard, just get back up, learn from it, and keep going.

 

[Kutnupe14]

And what does that have to do with anything? Did you read it? Or am I missing something?

It's a forfeit right? ...And of a league championship too. By your logic why should a team give up a championship and playoff seeding because of some other school. Yeah, the other school had a tragedy, but hell life happens right? They should have sucked it up and played, or forfeited the championship themselves.... life lessos, after all.

 

[sadclownwp]

Sports teams should be taught to play 110% all the time. I for one applaud the winning team. Lord knows the world is not going to put in second stringers against you when looking for a job. The losing team should have known better. They should have either not shown up, not left the locker room at half time, or just taken their beating with a chin up.

 

[jd4320t]

It's a forfeit right? ...And of a league championship too. By your logic why should a team give up a championship and playoff seeding because of some other school. Yeah, the other school had a tragedy, but hell life happens right? They should have sucked it up and played, or forfeited the championship themselves.... life lessos, after all.

It's a forfeit with circumstances nothing like the topic in this thread.