Soldiers arrested for forming a Militia within the Army...

[Lex Concord]

there will always be a nut case

Indeed.

 

[Movealongmovealong]

4 guys are going to take over and run the U.S. federal government?

That amusing.

 

[.45 Dave]

4 guys are going to take over and run the U.S. federal government?

That amusing.

Yeah, you'd think they'd need a political party behind them for that kind of mayhem!

 

[netsecurity]

Wow, what a bunch of dip####s. They kill two people to protect their plans, and then never even execute their plans? Buffoons.Why contaminate an apple crop?

 

[buckstopshere]

I think that the condemned is given the choice between a night with Nanci Pelosi or a weekend with Moo-chelle.

I'd beg for the sweet mercy of the firing squad!

 

[Expat]

You just wonder how you even get started talking seriously about something like that...

 

[buckstopshere]

You just wonder how you even get started talking seriously about something like that...

I'm sure they were inspired by a movie. Only delusional people who watch too much TV could even think it possible that 4 people could take over the .gov

 

[Blackhawk2001]

4 guys are going to take over and run the U.S. federal government?

That amusing.

Well, according to the OP news story, they either expected their movement to grow - or they had more members who haven't yet been identified. But I expect they thought vast numbers of patriotic Americans would flock to their banner once they succeeded in Striking At The Heart Of The Enemy!

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Other than the homicide, any one of us could be accused of the same that these soldiers are charged with. Collecting "assault weapons"? "Bomb making material"? How many of people on this board have an AR, or chemicals under the kitchen sink? IMO, the reason this is going to civilian court is so that more charges could be tacked on that the UCMJ cannot do without more evidence. The word of someone with less than 6 mos (PVT) is pretty thin when dealing with UCMJ.

ONE of the reasons this is being tried in civilian court is because the murdered parties were civilians not under military jurisdiction. The military typically allows soldiers to be tried under similar circumstances. Contrast this to MAJ Hasan, whose murders were of military personnel and dependents on a military reservation. He's being tried by Court Martial.

 

[jedi]

Wow, what a bunch of dip####s. They kill two people to protect their plans, and then never even execute their plans? Buffoons.Why contaminate an apple crop? That will

The act of terrorism is to instill fear in the general population. The most effective and best way to do this is to "attack" everyday, mundane items. - Bombing in a mall cause people to stress about going to the mall.
- Poisioning the food supply causes the same effect.

The terrorsit only have to achieve limited sucess in this and then paranoid seeps into people and they fear going to any mall or any gathering of people. They fear buying any fresh produce or food in general.

That is what makes terrorism so hard to "fight/break". It's not so much the acts that are occuirng against you, but you having to deal with the physcologial effects on the population.

Well, according to the OP news story, they either expected their movement to grow - or they had more members who haven't yet been identified. But I expect they thought vast numbers of patriotic Americans would flock to their banner once they succeeded in Striking At The Heart Of The Enemy!

Hum... double edge sword on that one.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

The act of terrorism is to instill fear in the general population. The most effective and best way to do this is to "attack" everyday, mundane items. - Bombing in a mall cause people to stress about going to the mall.
- Poisioning the food supply causes the same effect.

The terrorsit only have to achieve limited sucess in this and then paranoid seeps into people and they fear going to any mall or any gathering of people. They fear buying any fresh produce or food in general.

That is what makes terrorism so hard to "fight/break". It's not so much the acts that are occuirng against you, but you having to deal with the physcologial effects on the population.





Hum... double edge sword on that one.

Terrorism, to be successful, has to rely on "the authorities" being unable to counter their tactics. They also must be successful in coopting at least a portion of the population to either act with and for them or, at the very least, to be in such fear of them that they will not report them.

These folks would have just succeeded - if they had had ANY success - in angering the population; they didn't have a solid base to begin with, and couldn't have relied on a fearful populace to shield them from law enforcement. Can you say: "Dystopian 'Wolveriiiiiinnnnes'"?

 

[jeremy]

Terrorism, to be successful, has to rely on "the authorities" being unable to counter their tactics. They also must be successful in coopting at least a portion of the population to either act with and for them or, at the very least, to be in such fear of them that they will not report them.

These folks would have just succeeded - if they had had ANY success - in angering the population; they didn't have a solid base to begin with, and couldn't have relied on a fearful populace to shield them from law enforcement. Can you say: "Dystopian 'Wolveriiiiiinnnnes'"?

Might have something do with having a Leader that is only a Private...

 

[Expat]

Might have something do with having a Leader that is only a Private...

You just can't let go of that part

 

[halfmileharry]

I think that the condemned is given the choice between a night with Nanci Pelosi or a weekend with Moo-chelle.

I'd go with Moo-chelle.
After all, it's only fair. Her husband has been doing it to us for close to 4 years now.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

I'd go with Moo-chelle.
After all, it's only fair. Her husband has been doing it to us for close to 4 years now.

So you'd let her do it to you for a weekend? All you have to do is look at them to know who is the "top" in that family.

 

[Kagnew]

So you'd let her do it to you for a weekend? All you have to do is look at them to know who is the "top" in that family.

Oh Lord. I had an Arab mare rear and fall back on me, one time, but I'd sure hate to think about dealing with that Clydesdale rump of hers!

 

[jeremy]

You just can't let go of that part

Stupid should be very painful...

 

[nprecon]

A civilian government agency (GA) is prosecuting the issue and has lead. The military authority is subordinate to State and federal government's purview and will fully cooperate. May work out better this way, anyhow. Our 'Army Major' in Texas is still receiving plenty of 'lawyer support' for murdering a bunch of our kids in cold blood two years ago. He should have reached room temperature seconds before he started shooting. Political correctness running amok within our military, now. Justice is frequently as ugly as watching sausage being made... the major difference being justice usually leaves a bad taste in your mouth and it's alot harder to swallow.

On one hand the idea of four young (PV1-SGT) enlisted Army soldiers actually thinking they had the skill sets to execute a plan on this scale successfully is a bit on the comical side. They don't yet even realize what they don't know or understand in life. I don't care if there were 40 of them. They didn't have the knowledge and skill sets to successfully plan an operation on this scale. Sure, they would/could have killed a few hundred citizens... but then the smack down would come down on them and the end for them would be ugly.

On the other hand, these young soldiers bring disgrace upon our armed forces and give a degree of credibility to the Director of Homeland Security's comments last year about former American military personnel posing a threat to security as lone wolf operatives. I found that comment offensive, but idiots such as these give her comment credibility. Very aggravating!

 

[halfmileharry]

So you'd let her do it to you for a weekend? All you have to do is look at them to know who is the "top" in that family.

I'm just saying I'm used to that whole crew doing it to me.
I've been in harms way before. Not afraid of much at my age anymore.
It's a shame those idiots had the idea they could pull this crap off. PC warriors with **** for brains.